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Cockroach-Like Robot to Help Explain Animal Movement
neutron_p writes "A cockroach-like robot named RHex is the starting point for a major project to understand animals' most distinguishing trait: how they move without falling over.
Researchers from several universities will focus on RHex, a short, six-legged robot that scampers like a cockroach, as a working model of the principles they're seeking to uncover. By tweaking the robot and using it as a physical model, they hope to tease apart the complex neural and muscular networks in insects."
This could have immediate application for the disabled. Imagine a personal moving device like the segway that walks around with technology derived from insects. It'd be pretty cool I'd say.
Maybe a mars rover that doesn't faller over or get stuck
There are lots of possible uses of data from this research.
Does anyone know how this differs from the insect-like robots (like Hannibal and Attilla) developed by Rod Brooks' group in the MIT AI Lab? It's been a while since I took his class, but I remember that they found that remarkably simple distributed control systems could be used to generate adaptive legged locomation patterns without requiring complex centralized control.
Could it be possible that a computational approach isn't necessarily the way to go?
See, for example, the work of Mark Tilden
http://www.exhibitresearch.com/tilden/
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I discovered this by reading the story about RHex here.
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There's way too much work on insect-level locomotion.
First spend tens of million studying insect motion. Then spend hundreds of millions researching motion of higher lifeforms. Then billions to develop a factory manufacturing system to make copies of moving animals.
Why?
Every year we generate many millions of the most perfect and adaptive biological being the world have ever seen... babies...humans. Yet most of them get nothing but shit and are doomed to live on a dollar a day for their entire lives.
Why spend billions to create synthetic robotic psuedo lifeforms when the actual humans themselves are so absurdly cheap, Cost next to nothing, and are self-replicating? Give 'em burgers, Allah, and heroin; they'll do whatever you need...you don't need to spend billions creating robots. Not today, not in the 21st century, not on earth.
"Adding a robust perception loop around the sense-response robot is the way to go, as far as I'm concerned."
Agreed. In fact, that was one avenue the BEAM folks and Mark Tilden began exploring. Their take was to develop a solid sense-response sub-layer, and then layer on the computing systems.
The BEAM name for the architecture was Horse-Rider.
J Wolfgang Goerlich
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Is it because if they use cockroaches not many people will yell at them for animal cruelty, because cockroaches are "evil"?
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Why do you think that the show FearFactor can get away with doing the Cockroach bit on national TV?
My opinion only, if scientists have studied that we can balance ourselves with only 2 feet and while walking, with one foot up and one foot on the ground, why can't they apply that information to insects?
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REAL Friends help you move dead bodies... ^_^
...without falling over. After all, it's bipedal locomotion without any complex computer intelligence.
I've read something [in Wired probably] about movie makers using evolutionary software to make their creatures walk without having to hard code every movement [think LOTR: kings, the whole orc army was digital for a big chunk of the fight] I for one am not suprised that evolution came up with balance, just a feedback system of a motion dector and legs.
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you're definitely not going to contribute any more to society.
Riiight. As if contributing to society is what we should all be striving for, sacrificing self-interest on the altar of saintly altruism. They teach you that crap in school nowadays?
In any event, our friend here might be 'contributing to society' by pointing out that the $30 million dollars could be better spent elsewhere. Especially if it's $30 million in TAX dollars, in which case I agree with him.
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A lot of work in the walking robot field is going into dynamic stability - at least in U.S. academia. The various bipedal robots produced by the Japanese corporate world (Asimo, for example) are all statically stable - meaning that the center of mass is always kept directly over the support base. If you watch videos of those robots carefully, you'll see that this is the case.
Animals don't work like that. In fact, human walking gait is often described as continually falling forward, saved only by the swinging foot meeting the ground before you face-plant. As for insects, some gaits are statically stable simply by virtue of having so many legs, but the info posted by the parent concerning cockroaches using dynamic stability in tripod gait is really interesting.
Why does it have to be either/or?
Part of repatition training for humans is to transform a computational movement into a reaction movement. If you repeat something enough, it eventually gets hardwired (my lower brain is an FPGA!?!) and you no longer have to think/compute about it.
I think a "tri-layer" approach is good, with a sense-response layer (step back - ouch, that's hot) deferring to a trained-response layer (walking) then to a computed-response layer (walking over a rock garden). And if you walk over a rock garden often enough, the evolved and successful patterns used get transferred to the trained layer to make it "second nature".
But I'm just pulling this out of my ass, you'd need to find a hot robot expert to 2nd my opinion...
Forget thrust, drag, lift and weight. Airplanes fly because of money.