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Energy Efficient and Cheap Servers for Home Use?

CapnRob asks: "I just got married, and my wife and I are putting together a home network in the (small) apartment we're now living in. We'd like to set up a firewall/mail server/small-file-server, but all the machines we own right now are pretty big machines that pull a fair amount of power, and that we don't want to keep running 24/7. Since our mail and file server needs are pretty low, our ideal box would be something like a Linksys WRT45G with one of the open source firmwares ... if only you could add a small hard drive to it. We're both long-time FreeBSD users, so installing a *nix system is no big deal, but what I've found so far in this line needs more l337 soldering iron skillz than I've got. Any suggestions for tiny little cheap boxes that won't send our power bills into orbit?"

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  1. SparcStation IPX by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SparcStation IPX (or even IPC) I ran one of these clever little buggers for a few years, very low on power, quiet as a churchmouse and houses one harddrive (but at todays disk sizes that's plenty) the architecture is pretty fast and 64MB of RAM was more than adequate. You can pick these little beasties up on eBay for next to nothing so spare parts shouldn't be a problem, either (I actually bought a second for spares.) I was running RedHat 6.1 for months at a time without a hiccup.

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    1. Re:SparcStation IPX by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's some problems with the IPX that should make you think twice before considering it.

      1) CPU speed: The CPU in a Sparc IPX is slow. We're talking a MicroSPARC at 40MHz. Even running basic applications in a shell, it feels like slogging through mud. I have a SparcStation classic, which uses a MicroSPARC at 50MHz (slightly faster) and it's pure torture, especially when you fire up gcc to compile something.

      2) Bus speed: The 20MHz SBUS can barely support 10Mbps ethernet at full speed. I put an hme 100Mbps adapter in my SparcClassic and couldn't push more than about 12Mbps through it with large packets. It absolutely choked with smaller ones. The system also adds about 4ms of latency to any packet going through it, in my experience. Again, this is the slightly faster SparcClassic, not even an IPX! If you have a really fast (3Mbps or greater) DSL connection, you may lose out on performance because of this.

      Don't get me wrong, it's a fun as hell box to play with, and you can get them to network boot and run off a serial console, but they're just plain torture for doing real work. Even a PCI-bus 486 is loads faster.

      -Z

  2. whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You found a BSD chick? roxxor!

    1. Re:whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      You found a BSD chick? roxxor!

      I happen to know there are some BSD chix out there. They like Star Trek, Star Wars, computer games, Dungeons and Dragons, and love wild sex. Unfortunately 90% of them are five foot two and weigh in at 250 pounds.

    2. Re:whoa! by kevman42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hilarious...the parent is modded as "Informative"...like some person with mod points was reading through the posts, saw that one, and thought "Hm, I didn't know the BSD chix weighed in at 250. Next time I see h0tti3BSDbab3 online, I'll know not to flirt with her anymore, because I like my women thin".

    3. Re:whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Beg to differ. Mine is young, tall, thin, hot, funny, technical (computer security no less) and pulls down big bucks.
      Has she noticed you following her yet?
  3. Just do what I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Move into an apartment with utilities included.

    AC 24/7, free electricity... It's like a server farm in here.

  4. Is this what you're looking for? by fatjesus · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.mini-itx.com/

  5. How about a used laptop? by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 5, Informative
    A used laptop might do what you want. You don't need an awful lot of power. If a laptop HDD is large enough for your storage needs, then look for a cheap used laptop on e-bay.

    Laptops are generally very efficient on power. And they come with their own screen too. In fact, I heard of one company that replaced all of it's desktops with Thinkpads and used power as the single justification (the computer takes less, the monitor takes less, and less heat generated requires less AC).

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  6. None of us believe you by mark*workfire · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just got married, and my wife and I are putting together a home network in the (small) apartment we're now living in. We'd like to set up a firewall/mail server/small-file-server ....

    Dude, honestly, none of us believe you. You should have included a link to your marriage certificate and a picture of yourselves. People posting articles on Slashdot aren't married.

    Besides, you just got married, and your interested in the network ?????

  7. Since you like Linksys by kbahey · · Score: 5, Informative

    How about the NSLU2?

    It has been covered before on Slashdot and is hackable just like the router you mentioned.

  8. Re:Soekris is what you want. by douglips · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can easily run the Pebble Linux distro on these. The easy way is to mount a CF card on a Linux box and build a bootable filesystem there. The Pebble docs walk you through it, piece of cake.

    Since you can get 1 GB flash cards for pretty cheap, and Pebble even with added bells & whistles fits handily in 256 MB, you can run dead silent. No fans, no water cooling. Power consumption is somewhere south of 10 watts according to the soekris docs.

    Of course, if you are running a mail server and/or web server, you might want an actual hard disk to be able to have many read/write cycles without destroying your CF card - you can use a microdrive CF form factor disk with no problem.

    My understanding is that Soekris' support for *BSD is better than for Linux, but I've had no problem running Pebble on mine.

  9. Old Laptop (aka a "california server") by nweaver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Get an older laptop, put a PCMCIA or USB ethernet to give you a second ethernet (connect that to the DSL/Cablemodem uplink).

    Low power: Obviously, laptops have to be low power.

    Low space: Laptops are small. Disable the "I've closed the lid" switch or get the *nix install to ignore it, fold it up, and slide it away.

    Low cost: I said OLD laptop.

    Built in UPS: Why do you think its called a "California Server"?

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  10. Openbrick by Scottaroo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Greetings:
    http://openbrick.org/ is a community of folks doing this kind of stuff. I have purchased a couple of boxes from a US distributor (http://www.hacom.net/ and have been really happy. They have 3 ethernet ports, so they make great firewalls. We use CF cards for storage because we don't need the storage, but you can put little laptop harddrives in them, so you could make a file/print box if you wanted to. They'll boot off of a USB CD, so installation is a breeze. I run Debian, but have installed openbsd for kicks, also. They're cool enough that they don't need an internal fan, so they're quiet too.
    I have nothing but nice things to say about them. The US distributor only takes paypal, but he has always delivered without problems. He even called back to see if I liked it.

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  11. Two Things by Listen+Up · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Do a search for the power requirements of a modern computer (any time after the invention of APM). There are plenty of studies to be found, many of them at university websites. The average computer, when it is in standby mode, uses 35W or less. When an EPA Green monitor (almost every modern monitor on Earth) is in sleep mode they use less than 1W. So, you are trying to figure out how to use less electricity than the equivalent of a small nightlight? The first time you leave your electric oven on 350 degrees for about one minute longer than your buzzer went off (assuming it is heating at the time), you most likely just spent more electrical energy than an entire month of computer server usage on full power.

    2) Why are you trying to jack around buying proprietary solutions or exotic mini-computers for your needs? That's dumb as hell. My personal server at home is an old Dell P233 laptop I bought for $50. It sports 80MB of RAM, 100Mbit ethernet, and a 4GB HDD. It currently runs my Apache HTTP, SAMBA, SSHD, VNC, Postfix, and CUPS server and it is tucked away neatly on a shelf under my desk. It has been especially useful as my print server (since I have a wireless network) and MP3 SAMBA server. Power consumption? Please, this is a laptop and the power features have worked perfectly as they were intended to. Also, there has been no additional configuration with this system since its original installation outside of Linux OS security/bug/OS upgrades.

    1. Re:Two Things by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The average computer, when it is in standby mode, uses 35W or less.

      That's good to know, but what use is a server if it's in standby mode?

      The guy said he wants something on 24/7 - that to me implies accessible, especially as he mentions using it as a mail server.

  12. Re:Mini ITX and CF by sPaKr · · Score: 5, Informative

    memory, daemon, spin up disk, cronjob ? jebus your cool. It only took you about 10 seconds to revinvent a shitty vfs layer in userspace. Shouldnt we just be able to tune the VFS for aggressive cacheing and let that spin up and down the disk as needed. I dont want to get into the softupdates Vs. journel issue, but really thats what you want.

  13. Real computer by macdaddy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Don't use a device like a LinkSys or some other device that requires a flash card for storage if you're planning on serving web pages or handling email. Proper handling of email is not simply take the incoming message and write it to disk once. Do you realize that Sendmail writes a transcript file (xf) that exists during the life of a session showing everything that happens during that session? Few people realize that. Spam and AV checking will also likely require at least part of the message to be written to disk prior to scanning. Now you can do a lot of this in memory but the memory in a WRT45G is going to be too limited to have a decent tmpfs partition to handle this.

    No offense, but what you need to use is something that's meant to handle the job: a real computer. You can build a low cost, quiet, power conservative computer for not that much money. The average computer consumes less than 100 watts of power when performing basic tasks. This review gives you lots of details. So really the power consumption won't be a problem. Keep the number of internal devices low and you won't have much heat build up. Keep the heat low and you can do all sorts of fancy things with sound panels to absorb sound, thus fixing that problem. You sound like a person that really does need a home server, like myself and my servers. You can't go wrong with a real computer. Plus when something breaks (and of course it will) you have warranties to fall back on. You can also hop on newegg or run down to the corner Crap Shack and buy replacement parts. Try doing that with your jerry-rigged WRT54G. ;-)

  14. Re:Mini ITX and CF by bobbozzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Linux 2.6.6 and above kernels have a "Laptop Mode" which will only spin up the disk when necessary (read needed, or write buffers full).

    It's a sysctl variable...
    echo "1" > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode

    There's apparently also a userspace version if you don't want to upgrade your kernel.
    Google has info on using both.

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