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Ralph Nader Back On The Florida Ballot

Makoto916 writes "It's official. The Florida State Supreme court has ruled in favor of 3rd party candidate Ralph Nader. He is now back on the ballot, and just in time since absentee ballots were to be mailed out tomorrow (Saturday). This is certainly a victory for those of us who believe that the country is better off when alternative political voices aren't suppressed."

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  1. Re:Alternative political voices? by aelbric · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Strange that it was the Democrats that tried to have him removed from the ballot....

    http://www.katv.com/news/stories/0904/173778.html

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  2. Re:Certainty doesnt mean what it used to by ADRA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a Canadian in a parlimentatary system, I'll tell you its not all roses.

    There have been several minority governments; this happens when the winner doesn't garner 50% of the available seats.

    In that case, the leading party usually teams up with another party to reach a majority standing in the house.

    Anyways, the main point i'm trying to make is that out of all the monority governments none of them have lasted the four years. Every single one collapsed and forced a re-election.

    Right now there's a minority government, so here's hoping everyone gets along!

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  3. Vote for what you want -- but consider pairing by mec · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good for democracy.

    The votes belong to the voters, not the candidates.

    Anybody who wants to vote for Ralph Nader can damn well vote for Ralph Nader, and anybody who doesn't want to, doesn't have to. I think all the prospective Nader voters have been exposed to enough advertising and history by now to make up their own minds whether they prefer "vote for what you really want" or "vote for lesser evil".

    Regarding that "a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush" meme goes -- that sounds uncomfortably similar to President Bush's statement: "if you're not with us you're against us."

    One thing that Nader voters can do is pair up. In the last election, Nader Traders paired up Nader voters in swing states with Gore voters in non-swing states. The Nader Traders are back in action this election.

    There's another kind of pairing: if you really want to vote for Nader, but don't want Bush to win, go find somebody who really hates Bush but doesn't want Kerry to win. Make a deal: "I won't vote for Kerry if you won't vote for Bush." Then you go vote for Nader or Cobb, and your buddy votes for Badnarik or Peroutka. The major party outcome is unaffected, and you both vote for the candidate you really wanted -- which helps build the party you really want.

  4. Re:Doesn't make much of a difference by GOD_ALMIGHTY · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Communism and Fascism are natural political enemies. It was Communists that went off to the gas chambers along with the Jews, Gypsies and Gays systematically. Communists in the US during the rise of Hitler wrote that American Fascism, if it were to rise, would have a theocratic form of nationalism. The GOP certainly has been running for the theocratic vote.

    Remember that the fascists tried to get General Butler to execute a coup d'etat against Roosevelt in the 30's. The also campaigned to leave Hitler alone. Many wealthy people, including Edward VIII of England, were personal friends of Hitler. These were the people who believed in things like Social Darwinism.

    Most of the descendents of these people are now in the GOP. They tend to trend more libertarian except for Corporate Welfare, they believe that by vitue of their wealth, they are better people than the rest of us slobs. They see the theocrats as a tool to be used for their rise to power.

    Anyway, here are some articles:

    Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An exegesis
    Neo-fascism and the religious right
    The Danger of American Fascism
    Facts and Fascism by George Seldes

    As wrong as communists are, they're right about one thing, Fascists.

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  5. from the horses mouth by another+misanthrope · · Score: 3, Interesting

    this sums it up nicely from the candiate himself:

    Nader said Democrats should blame themselves if they are unable to beat President Bush because they are not focusing on the real issues that people care about. He cited as examples universal health care, creating a living family wage and ending the war in Iraq.

    ``If the Democrats cannot landslide the worst Republican administration in the 20th century they better look at themselves,'' said Nader.


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