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UTD Lifts Ban On WiFi Equipment

boredMDer writes "As seen in this /. story, the University of Texas in Dallas had issued a ban on students operating 2.4 GHz WiFi equipment. However, UTD has now lifted said ban, because of 'the discovery of an FCC ruling prohibiting such a move.'"

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  1. Wifi cards choosing wrong access points by Zarhan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, I can see one of the reasons they wanted to do this was, according to the article, not interference per se, but this:

    The connectivity problem stems from the fact that, if not told to do otherwise, many wireless cards will automatically connect to the strongest signal available. In Waterview's case, a network card might jump onto a neighbor's stronger access point instead of the possibly weaker UTD wireless network. The network swap can cause a "denial of service" conflict and a failure to connect to the Internet, Jackson said.

    IR officials said they hoped shutting down personal access points would stop cards from arbitrarily swapping their signal source.


    Now, just WTF are they thinking? Of course if I don't configure my WiFi card to a specific SSID, it'll use whatever network happens to be close by. Couldn't they just have set up an instruction sheet that said "if you want to use our network, set your SSID to campusnet" or whatever? In Windows XP this is trivial, with older ones you may need to go to network driver settings and punch it in there (or use software included with the card). With Linux you just say iwconfig wlan0 (or whatever your device is) ssid blahblah.

    I'll grant that they do have a problem with gazillion wireless networks combined with default settings for Wifi cards, but they clearly went the wrong way of dealing with it. Considering that even warchalk markings include SSID names, I don't think it would have been too much trouble to give instructions on how to set up your card.

    1. Re:Wifi cards choosing wrong access points by Slayk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, it's just like the origional article where nobody can read.

      This has zero to do with the integrity of security on the school network, because the issue was between the students personal APs competing with that of the school network. The peronal APs were NOT attached to the school network in any way, shape, or form, and were placed on privately paid for connections via SBC/Yahoo and Comcast.

      If you would kindly read the article, you would realize that thinking that the idea of students placing what effectively would be a unsecured repeater of the school's wireless signal being the issue is somewhat silly, for two reasons.
      1. That's a clear violation of the agreement between the student and the university concerning security and their unix id.
      2. Why would students need to do so, since the network is fully (and only) wireless to begin with?

    2. Re:Wifi cards choosing wrong access points by krs-one · · Score: 4, Informative

      As a student who goes to UTD, Information Resources did provide a page just for that after the network was upgraded.

      -Vic

  2. This seems backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny



    So let me get this straight...an FCC ruling has resulted in having a BAN on 802.11 LIFTED? Surely this must be some kind of twisted parallel dimension this news comes from...

    Next thing you know Microsoft will start asking Windows pirates to come forward on their own volition.

  3. Kind of Nice.. by Rosyna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    .. to see that in the last few years the FCC and FTC has been doing some good to citizens of the US. With this wireless policy, the law that states that property owners cannot prohibit a tenant to install a satellite dish as long as it is within the leased/rented property, the Do Not Call List, and the recent spam bounties, and the heavy charge for that jackson's boob incident. A "boob" like hers should have never been shown on TV. Just nasty...

  4. FCC regs. by fimbulvetr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many fellow /.s predicted this would happen, mainly because like it said, these devices _must_ accept interference.

    For more information on the Part 15 docs, see this site:

    http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_01/47cf r15_01.html

  5. This was predicted time and time again by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The FCC is the only body with the legal authority to regulate the spectrum. The vast majority of the comments in the original /. story agreed with this.

    UTD didn't own the apartments in question, even if they did they aren't allowed to prohibit their tenants from establishing legal wireless links. FCC regs allow tenants the ability to place dishes as necessary, antennas as necessary (so long as they're legal), and amateur radio equipment as necessary. Landlords cannot interfere with the above legal placements. End of story.

    I'm glad to see that UTD backed down. As much as I loathe the FCC for going after Howard Stern, and for making a huge issue out of Janet's n1ppl4g3, this is a major victory for the average joe.

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  6. Re:The university has taken a novell aproach inste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    The university has taken a novell approach

    And what does novell (www.novell.com) has to do with this?

  7. An apology was issued. by Slayk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only was the ban lifted, but an apology was issued from the head of IR at UTD. He took full responsibility for the ban (which wasn't run by him before being put in place, afaik) and the less than tactful accusations in the notice.

    Anyway, there's been much geek rejoicement over the past week.

  8. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know you must really suck at your job if a federal body steps in to tell you you're doing it wrong...

  9. No. No they aren't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "to see that in the last few years the FCC and FTC has been doing some good to citizens of the US."

    The FCC is doing far more harm than good through their attempting to censor speech on the radio (not in their charter), giving away billions in spectrum, and their rulings that force DRM onto HDTV. It gives me a headache just to think about it.

    Actually, I don't see where the FCC has jurisdiction over this. I mean, obviously they think they do, but think about it.

    The university has no right to prohibit legal electronic equipment in the dorm...true. But the FCC has no right to force private property owners to allow the university to do something just because it has police and a military to back up their decision. Its utterly arbitrary.

    The FCC is a bunch of idiots, run by an idiot son of a guy who sold his soul the biggest moron who ever occupied the oval office. And that's quite an accomplishment.

  10. Back in my day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I lived at Waterview... me and my friends didn't have all this fancy shmancy wireless stuff, so we buried hundreds of feet of coax cable underground between multiple apartments.

    Sure it wasn't too efficient, but it was fun.

  11. Re:Rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As state institution, they have to follow the constitution. They cannot say "We dont like the way the federal government is working, so we will simply ignore their laws". They cannot just decide that Part 15 doesn't exist and re-implement band plans and regulations of said bands.

    Secondly, there are limits as to what contracts can and cannot allow. The FCC has said that landlords cannot prohibit the private use of spectrum. There is no constitutional right to free-for-all contracts.

    There are also a few cases where this is shown, one case involving a municipial airport authority trying to regulate 802.11b and struck down by FCC, and another case of apartments trying to regulate use of wireless and struck down.

  12. Other Colleges and Universities by AnimusF6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keep in mind that UTD is not the only educational institution that has banned WAP. Dickinson College http://lis.dickinson.edu/AboutLIS/Policies/wireles s.htm here in Pennsylvania is, I imagine, one of many others. It may be a small little place, but we should be just as worried. It would be a shame if the enforcement of it's WAP policy were to be used as precedent. Yes, it violates federal law, but I'm not sure how much it would take to convince the FCC (either current or Kerry's) that the college was right and law had to be changed... Does anyone know of other institutions that have violated this law?

  13. Re:No. No they aren't by Tassach · · Score: 4, Funny
    Jimmy Carter has a graduate degree in nuclear physics. George W. Bush can't even pronounce "nuclear".

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