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Why You Should Never Lose Your Digital Media

kkrista writes "What would you do if you found someone's digital media card from their camera in your taxi? One such individual has decided to provide the world with 227 days of entertainment. I Found Some Of Your Life will post a photo a day and accompanying fictional narrative for the next 227 days using the photos found on a digital media card left in a cab. Is it pure genius or pure evil? Who cares? Just be thankful they're not your photos."

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  1. Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those ARE my pictures! Please Slashdot them so no one can see them! Thanks.

  2. I'm jealous by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, I wish my life were interesting enough right now that somebody would want to build a website based on my photos.

    Day 1: This is wrinkledshirt on Slashdot.
    Day 2: This is wrinkledshirt on Slashdot.
    Day 3: This is wrinkledshirt cursing spymac mail.
    Day 4: This is wrinkledshirt cursing Slashdot for not posting his spymac submission.
    Day 5: This is wrinkledshirt on Slashdot.
    And so on...

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    Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...

  3. I love sites like these by British · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Found photo sites are the best.

    http://www.spillway.com/ is still the king of "found photos on the Internet."

  4. Keep in mind by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep in mind that there have been hoax blogs before. Did they really find the camera card? Do you believe every blog is true?

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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  5. Re:So THAT'S where I left it... by xstonedogx · · Score: 5, Funny

    We have irrefutable proof those are not your photos:

    There are girls in the pictures.

  6. Actually it's purely illegal by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The taking of the card itself is theft. If you find something on the sidewalk, in a cab, etc that does not belong to you, you do not have the right to take and keep it. It is still property of the orignal owner. To keep it is theft, pure and simple.

    However this is also a case of copyright infringement. Works are automatically copyright to you upon creation, no registration is required. So these photos are the copyright of whomever shot them. To post them on the Internet without their permission is infringement.

    If I was the person who this happened to, I'd go after the blogger with a vengence. Instead of being a good citizen and either handing it over to the police or trying to track me down and instead of just being neutral, and leaving it, they decided to be malicious.

    Personally, I hope they go to jail.

    1. Re:Actually it's purely illegal by Starji · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You might be going in the right direction, but I think your feelings in this are a little extreme. First off, how the hell is he supposed to find the guy this belonged to? The card was found in a taxi in NYC. Going to the police wouldn't do anything as they would be more concerned with catching murderers and rapists than returning somebody's momentos. Leaving it in the cab wouldn't do any good either, as it would end up in the hands of another rider later on, or pawned off as soon as the driver found it at the end of the day. The only feasible way this would get back to the owner in a physical manner would be to give it to the driver of the cab and hope he puts it in lost and found. This would of course require the owner to call that particular cab company to see if someone picked up a memory card for a camera.

      Secondly, the copyright infringement case would be difficult to make. Granted he is infringing on someone else's copyright, but he is not doing it for financial gain. I don't even see ads on the page (aside from a blogger banner at the top). Also how would somebody assess the value of these pictures. Criminal offenses for copyright infringement don't occur until the infringer has caused a significant amount of financial damage (a few hundred thousand dollars IIRC). I would be hard pressed to believe these pictures are worth that much.

      If I was the person who lost the card, and I found out about the site, and if I were angry about it, I'd get a cease and desist letter sent and prove that I was the owner of the card. It's likely the blogger would close the page and return the card. The end result of this is the guy who lost his card would get it back, and the site would go down if the owner chose to do so. This would not happen if the site was not getting this much publicity, and may infact become the best chance for the owner to get his card back, along with some measure of internet immortality.

      Personally, I hope the owner of the card gets it back and doesn't mind seeing the blogger continue his series.

    2. Re:Actually it's purely illegal by torokun · · Score: 5, Informative

      (First, please note: I am not a lawyer, only a law student. Don't rely on this as legal advice!)

      That's not true. The finder has the basic common law title to the item as against all but the original owner. Title to property is relative. The finder has "worthier title" to the property than anyone but the original owner.

      Now everything I'm about to say is based on the presumption that this is "lost property" rather than "abandoned property"...

      This seems to be valid law in NY. See Hume v. Elder, 178 A.D. 652, 165 N.Y.S. 849 (2d Dep't 1917); Forman v. Rosetti, 38 Misc. 2d 317, 238 N.Y.S.2d 328 (City Civ. Ct. 1963); Garramone v. Simmons, 177 Misc. 330, 30 N.Y.S.2d 465 (Sup 1941)...

      But at the moment he finds it, he only has an expectation of that title in NY, and he has to wait for the statutory time period to elapse, and the owner not to claim the item, for title to vest. See Bisignano v. Harrison Central School Dist., 113 F. Supp. 2d 591, 147 Ed. Law Rep. 529 (S.D.N.Y. 2000).

      He gives it to the police, they keep it for a period, and when the owner doesn't claim it, and the time period expires, he can demand it back and his title vests.

      The periods are described in N.Y. Pers. Prop. Law 253(7), and are basically...

      * three months, if the property has a value of less than $ 100.00
      * six months, if the property has a value between $ 100.00 and $ 499.99
      * one year, if the property has a value between $ 500.00 and $ 4999.99
      * three years, if the property has a value of $ 5000.00 or more

      But there's more! This guy may be guilty of a misdemeanor:

      N.Y. Pers. Prop. Law 252(1) says he has to turn it in to the cops within 10 days. 252(3) says anyone convicted of noncompliance is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $100 fine or 6 months in jail or both.

      He also may be guilty of larceny:

      N.Y. Penal Law 155.05(2)(b) says this could be larceny if he doesn't take reasonable measures to return the property.

      Just goes to show, use your instincts about what's right, and you'll probably be much better off... ;)

  7. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll leave the legal issues for the lawyers to handle - but more importantly, is it ethical?

    If you found someone's driver's wallet with their driver's license and credit cards, would you go ahead and impersonate them or steal their identity? It would be an identity theft - in some ways, I think that is exactly what this guy is doing.

    I shudder to think what will happen if the real guy finds out. I for one know that if my pics were put up on the net - I would certainly get very mad, very pissed and would sue this guy to kingdom come.

    Leave the fun and coolness part of it - it's just not quite right, it's unethical and wrong. I do not know about anybody else, but in my book what this guy is doing is simply wrong.

  8. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by llin · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you read this comment, you'll see that someone already found one of the people in the photo a while ago. The conclusion of the discussion at the time was that the participants should be allowed to 'discover for themselves.'

    Hopefully the meta-drama will half as fun as the blog so far :)

    (Yeah, it's pretty wrong. But hilarious.)

  9. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by zors · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can understand being mad, wanting an apology, and wanting the blog aken down, and maybe criminal proceedings if any laws were broken. But why do people think they deserve money for something like this? What have they lost? Mental suffering? Bullshit. People are just greedy bastards.

    /Rant

  10. Awhile back... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    the Walmart photo website had a digital senior moment, and exchanged all of my photos with some random family's photos. My photos were of no consequence, (copies of product photos for work) but the photos they were replaced with were a window on a very poor family who lived in a trailer, had a t-topped Firebird up on blocks, and were suffering from poor dental hygiene.

    There were about thirty-some shots that were all stereotypical 'poor southern family'. Very odd, and a little sad, until you realized that they were genuinely smiling in every picture.

    Interesting stories played out in my head about this family until I got my boring pics back.

  11. This happened to me, sorta. by John+Courtland · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was in Baton Rouge, LA. My car was having some problems with the AC and I stopped in at a Ford Dealer (Autobahn Ford) to get my R-12 recharged. Someone there took my Canon Powershot S30 with my IBM CompactFlash 384MB drive. Fucking redneck assholes. I should have beat the shit out of the inbred fucks working there, but that's a different story for a different day.

    Regardless of how pissed I am at losing a $400 camera to a couple of asshats, I had some photos of my then girlfriend in various comprimising positions. To keep this brief, if I saw photos of her on the internet, bad things would happen to all involved. I wouldn't be surprised that if some of the images on that card are more personal, and if the owners get a glance, someone is gonna get hurt bad.

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    Slashdot is proof that Sturgeon's Law applies to mankind.
    1. Re:This happened to me, sorta. by raehl · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had some photos of my then girlfriend in various comprimising positions

      Now we *KNOW* you're lying.

  12. Like Homer Simpson says... by DriedClexler · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's funny because you don't know the person.

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    Information theory is life. The rest is just the KL divergence.
  13. The Victims by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the comments posted on the blog identified this sorority as the source from another picture of one of the girls that was posted on their site.

  14. Huge copyright issues and no fair use at all. by dameron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In preparation for opening a website lampooning politicians (DailyHaiku.com, I asked a friend who is an intellectual property lawyer for some advice on what would constitute fair use for the photos we were planning on appropriating from the AP and other such sources.

    His advice was pretty telling. While we had a good fair use argument, he indicated we would most likely run into legal problems anyway with model releases for people who weren't public figures, and even some politicians (like Arnold Schwarzenegger hotly contest their public figure status regarding copyright.

    As it is we had to go strictly with photographs in the public domain (and thankfully almost everything the federal government produces counts) or expressly granted for general use.

    Posting entire found pictures (actually an entire collection), especially if used with a profit motive, with no permission from the photographer and the subjects is just asking for an incredibly brutal pounding in court.

    -dameron

    Still waiting for my C&D from Dick Cheney...

  15. Because thats all people understand by Stone316 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately in todays society people really don't understand the consequences of their actions unless its associated with a dollar value. Money is an excellent deterent.

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    "Thanks to the remote control I have the attention span of a gerbil."
  16. Disappointed by pavera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First off I found the site very funny. Now reading the posts here, I'm very disappointed that I live in a country where everyone's first reaction to this seems to be "I'd sue the bastard" or "put him in jail".

    Yes the guy who found the card should attempt to find the real owner, what better way? If he posted a few pics on the net, it would never get enough notoriaty to be found. Its a memory card, its not like there is an address and phone number on it. The cabby wouldn't be able to find the person, the person I'm sure doesn't know where exactly they lost it, and wouldn't be able to remember the cab companies name either. The cops would just junk it. This is the only way the real owner can get his pictures back.

    Yes, in a way this is copyright infringment, but geeze, for a place that is sooo against musicians being able to keep people from copying things they actually make money off of, this guys pics seem like a bizarre hypocrisy to try to protect. It's not like he's a pro, or that he was gonna sell these pictures for money.

    People here posting that this guy should be put in jail, or fined, or sued... well just chill out. He's having fun, I had a good laugh, and its actually possible that the real owner will get his pictures back, whereas if the poster didn't post them in this manner there is basically 0% chance that would happen.

  17. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by karniv0re · · Score: 5, Funny

    What have they lost?

    Well, a memory card for one.

  18. Welcome to Blackmail! by skinfitz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hello and welcome to Blackmail! The way this works is we post once picture a day, but at any time you can email our hot..er.line and pay the amount of money listed at the bottom of the page to have the pictures removed.

    Each day the price doubles...

    With kudos to Python

  19. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by digital+photo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually...

    Having government registration allows you to have a more solid footing.

    What is important in Copyright infringement cases is to prove intent. In this case, the poster KNEW the content was not their's to use and fully intended to post the content up.

    The poster also decided to create fake events around the pictures. This can lead to slander/libel cases if the posted content results in mental anguish, loss of job, or other personal losses.

    The quality of the pictures is not the point, the theft and misuse of the pictures is.

    It would be very funny if the pictures actually belonged to a law student. *grins*

  20. Re:Thank you sir, may I have another photo publish by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can understand being mad, wanting an apology, and wanting the blog aken down, and maybe criminal proceedings if any laws were broken. But why do people think they deserve money for something like this?

    They deserve to ask for punitive damages to punish and deter people from commiting these kinds of acts. And an extreme amount of public exposure can bring all sorts of problems like stalkers and death threats. There are a lot of loons out there that will target someone simply for being well-known publicly. Someone in that kind of a position will need security. Who is going to pay for it? If a person receiving a great deal of public exposure isn't someone like an actor who actually recieves an income relative to that exposure, then what financial recourse do they have to protect themself from the reprocussions?

    What have they lost?

    They have lost their privacy. Having pictures posted on the internet against one's will is an invasion of privacy, especially if it gets Slashdotted. Remember the Star Wars Kid? He and his family weren't too happy about all that and took the parents of the kids that put his video on the net to court. They didn't want any part of the internt cult status the practical joke had given him and would have preferred not to have him humiliated with that kind of exposure.

    Even if these photos are taken down by the poster, they could already have been copied and circulated around the net, just like the Star Wars Kid. And just because you're not doing anything wrong in a photo doesn't mean your privacy should be left to others to toy with and take away. Isn't privacy a fundamental right?

    Mental suffering?

    Something like this can indeed cause mental suffering. Have you ever heard of social phobia? It is a very real anxiety disorder, and someone with such a condition could be severely traumatised if they had their privacy invaded with all the internet as an audience, even if the photos were innocuous.

    What if a photo of yourself in an embarassing situation had been circulated on the net without your consent? A practical joke between friends is one thing, but letting a worldwide audience through the internet see it is another and can cause extreme humiliation and mental suffering.

  21. Re:If you think this is evil, by hai.uchida · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should'a warned us you're linking to a porn site.

    Regardless, it's not the same thing at all. An unprotected gallery on photobucket is much more fair game than stealing someone's memory card and platering it all over the web.

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    my password is private, but unchanged.
  22. Re:You could always DMCA the bastard. by mpmansell · · Score: 5, Informative

    Surely, even if a 'finders-keepers' rule applies, it doesn't cover the photos, which are covered by copyright. If this is not the case, then any photograph, radio signal, dvd, etc that you found in such a juristiction would ultimately end up in the PD.

    He might gain ownership of the storage device, but I doubt the content on it

  23. How to get your digital card back by scumpacom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is why I make the first image on my media cards be one that displays my contact information and then I lock it so it won't be erased accidentally.