AMD vs Intel: A Linux Bout

CrzyP writes "AnandTech puts the latest and greatest AMD and Intel CPUs, including 32-bit and 64-bit versions, to the test in their first ever "Linux Desktop CPU Roundup" to see which performs the best in various Linux applications including database, compiling, rendering, encryption, and more. They suggest the Athlon 64 3500+ over the P4 560 for "balancing price and performance". Very informative!"

Comments

Re:Hyperthreading

[currivan]

I bought an Athlon64 3200+ system in June and I'm quite happy with it as a server, but there are a few issues. There doesn't seem to be any way to run Wine on 64 bit chips, or at least the compilation fails for lack of support for low level locking operations. Also, the dual library setup (/lib and /lib64) creates problems for some projects that use older build systems. I also made the mistake of getting an ATI graphics card, and they don't have 64-bit drivers, and the Mandrake ones are too buggy to run UT2004.

Re:AMD running at 50deg C.

[Anonymous Coward]

Because you probably have a crap heatsink/fan combo. If you like to live richly get a Swiftech MXV462-V series heatsink for it... Works wonder but it's damn pricey (around $50.00 for the heatsink itself, big heavy copper block with a few hundred rough surface aluminum spikes driven into it in a spherical layout)

It also has one of the best mounting methods I've seen, no more screwdrivers prying against super strong springs in tight corners...

http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/heatsinks/s wiftech/mcx462-v/page2.htm

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[aardwolf204]

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Re:Hyperthreading

[Anonymous Coward]

Windows understands that there are two "virtual" processors, while linux treats them as two physical processors.

Meet linux 2.6

Linux 2.4 SMP wasn't HT aware so the scheduler would not take advantage of shared cache on virtual processors, this is no longer true with 2.6

Re:Debian and Athlon 64 Systems Question...

[Too Much Noise]

I haven't used Deb on amd64, but judging from the relevant anouncement you should not have too much trouble:

Taking the ported source packages count, debian-amd64 is the most complete port after i386, see the Buildd stats.

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Native execution of legacy 32bit binaries is supported by the kernel, and core libraries are provided by the ia32-libs package.

Re:AMD running at 50deg C.

[jmke]

The Swiftech MCX462-V (MVX does not exist afaik ;)) is not the best heatsink out there money can buy. There are a lot of others which beat the Swiftech in both performance, price and noise levels. I've done 2 AMD heatsink roundups, one of them was posted at /. here

The latest update I made can be found here from August 2004 and includes tons of innovative Heatpipe coolers which deliver great performance at a lower price! can't beat that?

Look for a Thermalright SP-94 or Sharkoon HSP1 to get your AMD chilly :)

LinuxHardware.org has similar article

[vherva]

Recently posted: Intel's New Platform Verses AMD's 64-bit Prowess. Similar scope in benchmarks, perhaps better analyzed.

Re:Hyperthreading

[dmayle]

There doesn't seem to be any way to run Wine on 64 bit chips

Pure, misinformed mistakes

I use Gentoo primarily on my Athlon 64 3000+ SFF, and I use wine to run Forte Agent and Microsoft Photo Editor. I haven't yet found an Open Source program (or pair of programs) that performs as well as these two for looking at... pictures of sailboats. Yeah... pictures of sailboats

Wine works just fine on amd64, it just needs to be compiled to 32-bit code.

Re:compile times

[pclminion]

I'd say 4 minutes to compile the kernel is about right. Notice I said "kernel," not modules!

It takes about 20-30 minutes to do a full compile including modules, depending on my system load.