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FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 Available
Nirbo writes "FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 is now available! Get it while it's hot! Here is the mailing list post. Remember folks, this is currently the last beta that will be released for 5.3, we're only a week from a Release Candidate, and two weeks from a release!"
Because it's a system and not a kernel?
.NET v1.1 was released, because *gasp* I like .NET.
To be honest, if you're happy with Gentoo, then use it; we don't really care either way, we use BSD because it's the best for us.
Try it, for 2 months at least, and then decide. If you like it, fine, if you don't fine.
I don't really care what other people uses, as long as it doesn't interfere with what I'm doing; hell, I've even started using Windows when
I wouldn't say that its a not invented here attitude, but more the fact the developers take a large amount of pride in their little corner of the kernel, and its hard to take pride in someone else's work when all you've done is implemented it. It goes toward the general feeling that Linux is more haphazardly put together, touting the individual parts as strong points whereas in the *BSD's its the finished product thats held high as a source of pride. You end up with a 'I did this myself,' compared to a 'we created this with the best ideas out there.'
"I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
The Linux kernel development model works quite well.
;) are still on kernel version less or equal to 2.2.x.
There are however a few dark spots; the first come first serve attitude, like the old VM debacle for example; and all the other beta stuff that enters, like drivers for example.
The fact is that technical merits are always weighted by opinions, and opinions on lklm are strong.
These things will not bite you if you're sensible and don't update your kernels day in and day out; the few good Linux admins I know (maybe because I know few Linux users
It really doesn't matter what system you run; be it AmigaOS, Windows, VMS, BSD, Random Linux Distro, or OS/400, to name a few; if you know what you're doing you kan do pretty much anything.
Matt has and have always had a strong opinion on the weight on specific technical merits, namely simplicity.
You have to remember that Matt is originally from AmigaOS country, and his opinion therefor is strongly shaped by his love for its design.
While I agree with Matt, I also understand why the rest of the FreeBSD team picked another option; because it also, from their point of view, the best.
Matt's opinion is strong, and he refused to accept the choice of others, like he has done many times before; therefor we have DFBSD.
This is not bad or wrong, because we will have two excellent options to choose from, depending on how we weight technical merit with our opinions.
"To my astonishment, the user, who had to do a recompile just like myself, didn't share my exasperation. In fact, his reaction was: That's what I like about gentoo (referring to the use-flags, and ranting about the wonderful flexibility of the system!)."
:)"
This is true zealots of other OSes (languages, etc) too. They think it's great because it suits them, and they can't put themselves in the place of another user that has different resources and needs. This is often true of people that are otherwise brilliant. Unfortunately, they get mod points sometimes.
I try to learn a lot of OSes and languages for this reason. I don't have a problem with something being different, or unsuited for my purposes. What I have a problem with is people that think their tool of choice is good at something it's not, or alternatively, that the task being discussed is not important.
Gentoo zealots think Gentoo is reliable and easy to maintain. I don't know how they can think that, but they do. I'd just shrug my shoulders and forget about it if they wouldn't lay on the evangelism so thick. I keep getting told things which I know to be untrue.
"I only mention this because that somehow, modding your comment as troll reminded me of the absolute resistance to any kind of criticism (well, there are exceptions of course) on the part of the community. Saying anything against gentoo is dangerous indeed
Well, I did use the phrase "beneath pathetic". That's a bit pajoritive.
It's a bit irritating that the zealots of my OS (OpenBSD) of choice do the same thing. They seem to think it's a good desktop OS, which it's not. They tell people not to use Java rather than address the sorry state of Java on OpenBSD.
This is how I convince myself I'm not a zealot... I have a favorite OS which I use whenever possible, but I recognize that it's not a good desktop OS and use something else. I have a favorite language that I use whenever possible (Python), but some problems just don't want to be solved in Python, so I use other languages a lot.
Being a zealot will only cause you to miss opportunities. Knowing Python makes me a better programmer in C and Java. I can't stand Lisp, but it has the same effect. Knowing BSD makes using Linux easier. Expand your horizons people. Try something else.
I know 8 OSes (counting Linux once), and 12 programming languages. I can't stand most of them, but I'm a better programmer for it. And I found the stuff that was right for me. Python and OpenBSD weren't the first stops, of that you can be sure.
I rarely criticize things I don't care about.