Arrest in Cisco Code Theft

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Posted by ryuzaki0 on Monday September 20, 2004 @08:07AM from the hack-and-roll dept.

Kozar_The_Malignant writes "The BBC is reporting that an arrest has been made in the case of the stolen Cisco code that was posted to the internet last May. Approximately 800 MB was posted to a Russian security website. No name has been released and details are rather thin."

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Re:The post-arrest-press-release interview by strictfoo · 2004-09-20 08:15 · Score: 3, Insightful

You know, sometimes these little "give and takes" that people post on /. are funny. This one was in no way humorous or entertaining.

Thanks!

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Contrary messages in the article by Weaselmancer · 2004-09-20 08:19 · Score: 4, Insightful

From the article:

Soon after the appearance of the code Cisco confirmed that the FBI was investigating how the theft had occurred.

And...

Cisco said that it had not been stolen as a result of loopholes in its software.

So, they need the FBI to determine how the theft occurred, but they're sure it wasn't because their software has security holes?

Either you know how it happened or you don't, guys. Can't be both.

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1. Re:Contrary messages in the article by _Sprocket_ · 2004-09-20 08:56 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  So, they need the FBI to determine how the theft occurred, but they're sure it wasn't because their software has security holes?
  
  It is very possible that Cisco knows how the theft happened. But keep in mind that we haven't quite realized the futureshock predictions of corporations-as-government. As such, Cisco will not be prosecuting any associated criminal case and will have to rely on the FBI, as an agent of the federal government, to maintian their traditional role. Cisco may provide what evidense they have of the intrusion. But the FBI will still be running its own investigation and ultimately coming to their own conclusions - even if they end up matching Cisco's.
2. Re:Contrary messages in the article by shawn(at)fsu · 2004-09-20 09:11 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Not so true, you can start to eliminate vectors as you gain more facts.
  
  lets say you own a business and one day you come in and cash is missing. There are no signs of forced entry (no broken windows no kicked in doors), the only thing disturbed is the cash drawer and the tape from the security camera is missing. You can more or less eliminate a random buglery and focus on people with a working knowledge of your operations such as employess.
  
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Re:It always seems... by MonsterChicharo · 2004-09-20 08:29 · Score: 2, Insightful

Perhaps there are a lot of code related crimes out there done by individuals at all ages, but the objectives are different, hence the difficulty of catching those whose main goals are not those of mischief, but of industrial espionage, who I would think will be quite more interested in covering their tracks rather than boasting about their achievements.
Re:"Code theft"??? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-09-20 08:44 · Score: 1, Insightful

1) buy a dictionary
2) use it
3)....
Re:"Code theft"??? by fatcatman · 2004-09-20 08:48 · Score: 2, Insightful

I'm posting this as an AC because the truth does not like to be heard on slashdot, just herd.

No, you're posting as AC because you're a pussy and an idiot. You proved the former by not logging in, and the latter by equating the theft of intellectual property with joyriding in a car. You will further prove this when you respond to me and say, "There's no difference, commie hippy fuckwad."
Re:"Code theft"??? by maxpublic · 2004-09-20 08:49 · Score: 3, Insightful

Words are repurposed every day.

Especially by marketing hacks. "Repurposed"? Jesus.

Whats the difference between manslaughter and murder? Semantics.

Damn good thing you aren't a lawyer. Legally murder is the *deliberate* killing of another human being; manslaughter is the *accidental* killing of another human being. Of course, the fact that you're unable to distinguish between the two is driven home by your completely irrelevent strawman argument.

Yes, theft does not mean someone was deprived of something.

The legal definition of theft means that you actually have to deprive someone of something. And no, you aren't important enough in the grand scheme of things to redefine words as you please and force your definitions on the rest of us. So either you accept *our* definitions or we get to laugh at you for being a solipsistic, arrogant little prick.

There's a difference between theft and copyright violation. But I don't suspect you'll be able to tell the difference, since you can't even see the difference between murder and manslaughter.

Commie hippy fuckwad. I'm posting this as an AC because the truth does not like to be heard on slashdot

No, you're posting this AC because you're a fucking coward who's desperately afraid that he might lose some bogus karma points if he posts under his handle. A spineless, whining, two-bit guttersnipe without the balls to stand behind his words and take what comes.

I laugh at you, little weasel.

Max

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Re:"Code theft"??? by SoSueMe · 2004-09-20 08:49 · Score: 2, Insightful

You make a good fucking point.
Perhaps if you fucking put it forward better then you might just get a better fucking response.
Only a fucking antisocial troll would ruin a fucking valid and possibly well-fucking-reasoned statement with such a fucking derisive insertion of profanity and fucking insult.
Have a fucking nice fucking day.
Re:It always seems... by 0racle · 2004-09-20 09:03 · Score: 3, Insightful

Its because some people grow up and stop being such jackasses.

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Re:Open Source by Florian+Weimer · 2004-09-20 09:27 · Score: 2, Insightful

Also even if cisco did release the code for its routers, it's architecture is so specialized that you need quite expensive machinery to even get it compiled, so it wouldn't enjoy the massive development base that linux has.

This only applies to actual packet forwarding. Other interesting IOS parts are routing protocol implementations (particularly EIGRP, but another industry-strength BGP implementation won't hurt, either), scalable tunneling support (in particular mass-termination of PPP and L2TP links), and fast forwarding decisions in software (mostly CEF).

Even Cisco can't afford to build everything from scratch. Some software routing architectures are pretty standard designs with a PCI bus and a regular MIPS CPU (maybe a bit underclocked, but nothing really special). No, I'm not talking about Linksys. 8-)