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Star Wars DVD Box Set Released

dealsites writes "CNN reports that George Lucas is releasing the Star Wars DVD box set early on September 21, 2004 due to piracy concerns. Lucas had intended to release the box set of the original 3 movies after Episode III: Revenge of the Sith was released. However, he mentions that due to piracy concerns the profits are being eaten up and there might not be a market for the films at that time. The box set contains the changes that Lucas has made from the original releases. CNN also reports on the top 5 major changes. Lucas is quoted as saying that he never intends to re-release the original 3 movies in the first CNN link."

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  1. Sure. by Phexro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really suffering due to piracy.

    Versus, say, producing two completely crap prequels, oversaturating the tie-in market, and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.

    George Lucas doesn't need any more of your money, and this seems to be reflected by the decisions he has made as of late.

    1. Re:Sure. by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.


      When they released the first one to the big screen, they announced they would never release it to the home market. I saw it on the big screen. Because they would never release it to the home market, piracy couldn't hurt anything. I was overseas and picked up a nth generation VHS copy. (not good quality) Because of piracy, about 4 years later they released a VHS version. They missed the market by not filling the void. They should have sold into the market when the demand was high. It's a case of a company not listening to it's consumers.

      Now that consumers may want the original theatrical version, why is a studio going to play the it's not for sale game again.. Will they ever learn.

      Some movies I am hesitant to buy simply because it becomes a pig in a poke. Close Encounters of the Third Kind is a good example of this. There are at least 3 versions out. The original big screen version I don't think they ever released to the home market. The re-done one (with out the crazy scene of ripping up the garden, upsetting the lady with the ducks next door, and tossing everyting into the kitchen window) and the extended version with the extra footage of the ship.

      Get a clue. Release the uncut big screen version in a timely manner. If I know I can get the full version legaly in good quality, than there is less incentive to look elsewhere.

      If you want additional scenes, or an alternate ending, put it in the menu on DVD.

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    2. Re:Sure. by Maestro4k · · Score: 4, Insightful
      • and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.
      If there really is a huge piracy problem for the original trilogy then this is the reason why. People have been begging, screaming, whining and complaining about the lack of a DVD release of the original trilogy at least since Episode I came out on DVD. That's been about 4 years now so of course people are going to start turning to alternatives. I'd be willing to bet a large amount of those "pirating" the original trilogy own the VHS version and have already preordered the DVD boxset.

      Personally I have the only digital version released up till now -- the laserdisc version. Still I'm not keen on the two pauses you have to deal with per movie (one double-sided disc, one single sided per movie) so I preordered the box set. There's not a huge number of people with laserdisc players (even at the height of their popularity, such as it was) much less both a player and the Star Wars LDs, everyone else wanting a digital version has been SOL up till today.

      While that doesn't really make it right that people have pirated it, I'm not going to be feeling sorry for Lucas. Quite frankly, he brought that particular piracy mess on himself by being stubborn and ignoring fan requests. He'll still make barrel loads of money off the DVD boxset anyway so it's not like he's going to suffer. Neither are those that worked on the original trilogy, he did share profits with the cast and crew on The Empire Strikes Back at least, I believe he did so on Return of the Jedi as well. (For those buying the boxset the new documentary included will tell the details, I caught it on A&E a few weeks back.) About the only "victims" I can see for piracy of the original trilogy would be the stores who didn't have the product to sell in the first place.

      And frankly it'd sell well even if he'd made us wait as long as he originally intended, although he may have lost all remaining fan goodwill towards him.

    3. Re:Sure. by mark-t · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Except for one, small, detail....

      The "home market" didn't even exist yet when Star Wars first came out in 1977.

  2. Ehm, logic anyone? by __aagctu1952 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hm, let's see here:
    * Fans are screaming after the original, non-Special Edition version.
    * Lucas admits he's never going to release the original version.

    So, the only way to get the original trilogy, on a decent medium (VHS doesn't count, Laserdisc isn't an option for 99% of the people out there) is through... piracy?

    Now, here comes the big irony:
    * Lucas releases the Star Wars SE DVDs early, over fear for piracy concerns.

    Way to go Lucas!

    1. Re:Ehm, logic anyone? by zoeblade · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now, here comes the big irony: Lucas releases the Star Wars SE DVDs early, over fear for piracy concerns.

      No, the big irony is making a film in which people have to buy products for the sake of it, presumably pointing out that this would be a bad idea, then going on to make another film which you proceed to market toys for, do deals with fast food eateries over, and so on.

  3. I don't get it by chrisgeleven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The majority of Slashdot readers seem to be pissed about the greatest trilogy of all-time being released on the most popular video format right now.

    Yes I know it isn't the original trilogy. But the SE is damn close to being it. Some of Lucas' "improvements" are *gasp* actually improvements! Yes, I know it isn't what was originally released, but this is Lucas' story and he owns the rights, so he is allowed to tinker with it until he is satisfied.

    When I watch the SE, I don't vomit, I don't cry, I don't think about some part of my childhood slipping away. The great parts of the movie are still there. Luke meeting Obi-wan, the sunset, meeting Han, saving Leia, Obi-wan vs. Vader, "I am your father", the final duel, etc. It is all there still, just like it was back in the day.

    The movies still give me that chill during certain scenes, where they just touch some part inside that you never knew you had.

    Yes it might not be the originals, but I'll take 99% of the original on DVD over nothing. Maybe if you don't agree you should go watch again with an open mind. Instead of saying "why the fuck did Lucas change this! It isn't the same!" ask yourself "there must be a good reason for this."

    Now I am going to go watch my copy of the trilogy...on DVD!

  4. My feelings on the changes by AndrewStephens · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • Jedi Don't Scream
      This is a good, it sounded stupid. Kudos to Lucas for correcting a mistake
    • Boba Fett has a new voice
      Again, not a bad for consistency.
    • A new and improved Jabba
      Thank god, the SE scene looked incredible dumb. Hopefully they have also removed the Han walking over Jabba's tail bit with some creative editing. Actually, I wish that the whole scene was removed, or greatly shortened since Greedo basically repeats all the information to Han later on.
    • The emperor's new clothes
      Fair enough, since we all know by now that Palpatine is the emperor (or do we...)
    • The big finale
      Everyone seems to be complaining about this, but I think it makes sense. The picture circulating on the net looks a bit stupid though, seeing Christensen smiling untouched at the end looks somehow wrong. He could at least look a bit guilty for wiping out the Jedi. Still the original wasn't much better.
    Final Verdict: mainly positive
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  5. Do these changes really have to be made by Blue23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, it's well established that the first three movies are a classic. But some of the changes seem to bring the classic in line with the latest shovel-fed garbage. Redubbing Boba Fett's voice? Replacing the Anakin Skywalker ghost?

    It's like taking Dracula (the original) and "updating" it so it's got smoother continuity with all of the cheesy vampire moves made over the years.

    Guess what - there already is a break between the original trilogy and the 2/3 releases prequel trilogy. If you need to adjust to bring them in line, adjust the new junk to be in line with the classic, not the other way around!

    Hopping mad,
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  6. Piracy by here4fun · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In some ways, the studio's are just as unethical as a pirate. They will re-release a movie over and over again. First comes the vanilla version, with maybe a trailer and nothing else. Then comes the Collectors Edition, with a commentary track and production notes. Then comes the Directors Cut with added footage, remastered nontheless. Why can't they release the best version first? Instead, if you want the movie and the extra's, you have to buy it twice. BTW, this all comes after the $10 movie ticket price where popcorn is $5 and a coke is $5 and you have to sit through half an hour of commercials if you want a good seat. Now tell me again, how are the pirates unethical? What money are they taking away from the studios? Clearly piracy ain't cutting in on the movie ticket sales, or any of the special edition sets.

    This is not to say that piracy is good, but considering how the movie studios treat the customers, I don't feel bad for them one but. Maybe if the movie studio's treated me better I would have more sympathy for them (for example, quit with the half hour advertising before a movie). Oh, and my biggest DVD gripe, STOP WITH THE ADVERTISING THAT CAN'T BE SKIPPED.

    BTW, in unreleated news, I was reading that movie studios will now accept advertising in movies. Like in "I, Robot" the studio recieved money for a shoe commercial (converse shoes, I think). What is next? I can just see some of the classic movies, improved with product placement. I can just imagine Citizen Cane where everyone where's nike shoes and drinks Pepsi.

  7. Be No Original Trilogy Here.... by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "At least we got the original trilogy DVD."

    I hate to disagree, but we did not get the original trilogy. We got a trilogy that has been monkeyed with and, in parts, made worse while in other parts made better. On the whole, I like what he did to the three (even though I have seen the Hayden Christensen thing at the end of Jedi and hugely dislike it), but this is definately not the original trilogy.

    Personally, I think that is what Lucas is worried about. Here you have three movies how he wanted them, now complete we can assume. But, a great many people hate the changes. So much so that in recently (like in the last couple of years), those with the laserdisc originals have been painstakenly moving those over to DVD and those are appearing online. I believe this is the piracy that Lucas is talking about. He wants to make those originals go away (he said so recently).

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  8. Re:What's your point? by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Now I do understand the argument that it might be suffering MORE from the whims of it's creator, but it doesn't make his statement any less valid.

    Hollywood has cried "wolf" far too often, using "piracy" as a convenient explanation for any and all problems (even problems that are obviously the result of its own poor products).

    Thus, Hollywood claiming to have found yet another "piracy" problem is about as credible as Dan Rather claiming to have found another set of Bush's National Guard records.

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  9. Re:We had it yesterday in the UK by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And Sebastian "Anakin Skywalker" Shaw (at least in his non-disfigured state) has been CGI'd out of history and replaced with a mulleted Hayden Christensen.

    You know what really makes that edit stupid? Why would Luke recognize the young Anakin as his father?

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