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Interview with Camino Developer Mike Pinkerton

Posted by michael on from the anything-but-ie dept.

An anonymous reader writes "As someone who has used Camino for much of the time since the OS X-centric Gecko browser was released, I've been hoping to see it hit version 1.0 (it's at 0.8 now). ArsTechnica has an interview with Mike Pinkerton, the lead developer for Camino in which he talks about the history and future of Camino along with his thoughts on Safari and Firefox."

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  1. KHTML vs. Gecko by thirteenVA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Camino is a good browser, but once khtml matures its likely to outperform the gecko engine.

    For me the biggest difference is that safari still chokes on pages that the gecko engine will not but with the determination and skill of the Safari team this will not be the case for long.

    Safari is my default browser since its beta, and my money is on them for the long term. However it is really nice to have options.

  2. OmniWeb by metalligoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The first commercial web browser, originally written for the platform the WWW was invented on, is still the best. OmniWeb has more features than any other browser.

    I couldn't imagine using anything else, but if I had to use another browser, it would be FireFox. I don't care if my browser is integrated with Address Book. FireFox does almost everything OW does. Camino is stuck in a strange no-mans land, and with Safari out there, Camino will remain a nitch browser.

    Safari is for average users. OmniWeb is for people that want amazing features. FireFox is for power users that want a free and open source browser. Camino just doesn't bring anything vital to the table.

    1. Re:OmniWeb by thirteenVA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I couldn't imagine using anything else...

      And I can't imagine paying for a browser... otherwise I'd be using Opera.

    2. Re:OmniWeb by MinutiaeMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Camino just doesn't bring anything vital to the table.

      I strongly disagree. Camino is ideal for Mac users who want to have a pleasing, streamlined application but also need (or want) the features offered by Gecko. It's effectively the best of both worlds -- the power of the Mozilla-based rendering with the power of a native OS X application. Firefox (IMO) is just for Windows switchers who desperately need to have a familiar interface.

      Of course, I definitely agree that OmniWeb trumps them all! (I've been using OW5 since the second beta back in February.)

    3. Re:OmniWeb by MinutiaeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, of course, you just expect to get something for nothing, right? There's a reason why OmniWeb and Opera charge for their browsers -- they offer more powerful applications with a wider range of features. And of course, they don't fund their development from operating system sales or random volunteer work...

      Did you ever try using OmniWeb? Do you have any idea how many features have been packed into that little package?

  3. I Prefer Firefox by Goo.cc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't get me wrong, I have tried Camino and I really do like it, but I use Firefox for the same reason that I use Vim: my experience is the same regardless of the operating system I use. Cross platform tools rock.

  4. Re:That's not what he meant. by MinutiaeMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very pretty, but not nearly as useful in the real world;

    As opposed to the tendency of Camino or Safari to squish the tabs down until you can hardly read their titles? I'd much rather be able to scroll through my tabs (not to mention drag-n-drop to reorganize them!) than be forced to stick to a single order of tabs.

    I was initially very dubious of OmniWeb's tabs, but after using them for a week or so I really started to see the benefits. You should give it another try.

  5. Re:Safari on Mac, Firefox on PC by ObiWanKenblowme · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As an off-topic tip, have you tried printing to a pdf instead of saving the page? I don't know if it meets your requirements (do you need to still be able to get to the HTML or images?) but it might be worth looking into. Back on topic, I agree with your comment about Camino's cookie management. I'd love for Safari to have a better method of management than what it's currently got.

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  6. Re:Safari on Mac, Firefox on PC by WatertonMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would someone still be using 10.1? That really was a version of OSX not quite ready for prime time. It had the advantage of being better than 10.0 only. Seriously, anyone with 10.1 really ought to upgrade. It would be well worth it.