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US Presidents on Presidential Power

Tod Landis writes "Responding to George Bush's statement that he will preserve executive power for his "predecessors", I've assembled a collection of quotes from those predecessors. Most saw executive power differently..."

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  1. authorization based on lies != authorization by js7a · · Score: 0, Troll
    If I hire Dick Cheney to tell you and 74 of your friends that some person is going to bomb Washington with anthrax drones that don't acutally exist, aluminum centrifuge tubes that don't actually exist, and yellowcake from Nigeria that doesn't actually exist, and you all vote to bomb that person first, does that mean you authorized it?

    Of course not. Bush and Cheney knew exactly what they wanted, and they wouldn't accept any CIA report that didn't agree with their presuppositions. That isn't leading, that is managing a lie.

    When you lie to someone, you take their liberty by preventing them from acting on accurate information.

    Decieving Congress on war matters is a serious felony. By trying to claim that an authorization gained under false pretenses is an actual authorization, you are not only aiding and abbetting the felons, you are also undermining your own reputation, the reputation of your family, your church, your employer, and your party.

    When you are given your heavenly rewards, I pray that God reminds you in full omniscient detal of all the birth defects and cancers which would not have occured if those convicted drunk drivers had not obtained the authorization of force that they had to lie to obtain. Here's a preview.

    You're right that we can debate the wisdom of the vote, and that, dear Pudge, is most certainly on topic.

  2. authorization based on lies != authorization by js7a · · Score: 0, Troll

    If I hire Dick Cheney to tell you and 74 of your friends that some person is going to bomb Washington with anthrax drones that don't acutally exist, aluminum centrifuge tubes that don't actually exist, and yellowcake from Nigeria that doesn't actually exist, and you all vote to bomb that person first, does that mean you authorized it?

    Of course not. Bush and Cheney knew exactly what they wanted, and they wouldn't accept any CIA report that didn't agree with their presuppositions. That isn't leading, that is managing a lie.

    When you lie to someone, you take their liberty by preventing them from acting on accurate information.

    Deceiving Congress on war matters is a serious felony. By trying to claim that an authorization gained under false pretenses is an actual authorization, you are not only aiding and abbetting the felons, you are also undermining your own reputation, the reputation of your family, your church, your employer, and your party.

    When you are given your heavenly rewards, I pray that God reminds you in full omniscient detail of all the birth defects and cancers which would not have occured if those convicted drunk drivers had not obtained the authorization of force that they had to lie to obtain. Here's a preview.

  3. Get it straight. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Troll

    When the president is a jackass, pinning the tail on that donkey is not partisanship, it's the truth. We're not required to spin your moron into a semblance of competence. Maybe it's time you listened to some of your fellow Americans (and global geeks) who are telling you that Bush is a fool.

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