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The Jobs Crunch

randall_burns writes "Neither major party is accurately describing or combatting the Jobs Crunch that Americans are facing. Bad immigration policy-and bad trade deals are combining to decimate the middle class in America."

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  1. Neither candidate is dancing the hoochie coo by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Troll

    Thats not an article or a submission, thats a two sentence observation.

    michael is so friggin transparent you hardly know when he's here, (except for dopey stuff like this)

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  2. ohh no... more complaining..more gov.. more probs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    People lose their jobs because they are not productive enough to keep them. Don't blame the hand that feeds you(Capitalism), blame the educational system that shields us from some real learning until we are out of college. Of course we are not productive.. most of us destroy our abilities to think straight due to high school and college education. Our generation is the one that is going to have to suffer... but lets get it over with, take the paycut, work for less, but start dismantling the cancer(gov edu,gov regulation) People... don't whine, learn www.mises.org

  3. poor choice of story for slashdot frontpage by auzy · · Score: 0, Troll

    I dont think a story like this really belongs on slashdot to be honest, especially not the front page, and is a better choice for other sites. The reason I feel this is because a large percentage of readers are not American, and articles like this inevitably result in 50% of the forum threads being flamebait because of feelings towards the political parties at the moment.

    The story itself is just a massive advertisement to vote against Bush too.

    At least, thats just my personal opinion. Either way, I know I wont be trying to moderate anyone in this thread, because every second post will look like trolling or flamebait depending on the perspective of the reader.


    Anyone else agree?

  4. As an American I can say... by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 0, Troll

    If Americans were better workers employers wouldn't be looking oversees for employees.

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  5. You cannot separate "Job Crunch" and intl trade... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Seems extremely myopic to me to bandy about a term like 'job crunch' while ignoring other factors which contribute and effect the overall situ.

    We're s(p)ending billions of dollars in trade over to the People's Republic of China, where the govt. has so much control over the people and trade that they've given themselves extreme advantages which have resulted in extreme amounts of Chinese made goods just about everywhere. Meanwhile, we're losing tons of manufacturing related jobs in this country and STILL our own government doesn't even seem to blink?!! WTF? And not only that...what about intellectual property? Huh? Hardly enforced (not surprising considering their ideological backgroud)

    I'm those who's job it is to study these things could certainly comment much more accurately and in greater detail, but my perception is that our govt. aside from not being able to stimulate the economy sufficiently to create enough jobs, seem to be sitting on their well-paid asses not giving a tinkers cuss about how trade affects job growth.

  6. Re:Racismdot by js7a · · Score: 0, Troll

    Up next, Michelle Malkin describes why her dual Phillipino citizenship means she should be placed in an internment camp until the threat level turns green.

  7. Disagree by beakburke · · Score: 0, Troll

    The welfare state IS socialism. It's not Pure Socialism, but it is socialism.

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  8. Time for a Joe Hill song... by Roblimo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Union organizer (and convicted murderer) Joe Hill was a friend of Woody Guthrie's and a frequent inspiration to him. Of course, we're all supposed to recoil in horror from these guys today, seeing as they believed in working people banding together and trying to get welfare-type benefits like paid vacations, health care, retirement, and even a workweek shorter than 60 hours. In any case, Hill wrote a nice little song about religion being used as a political tool by the kind of plutocrats that Republicans like T. Roosevelt felt were a danger to America....

    Long haired preachers come out ev'ry night,
    Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right;
    But when asked, how 'bout something to eat, (Let us eat)
    They will answer with voices so sweet; (Oh so sweet)
    You will eat, (You will eat)
    Bye and bye, (Bye and bye) in that glorious land above the sky;
    (way up high)
    work and pray, (work and pray) live on hay, (Live on hay)
    you'll get pie in the sky when you die. (That's a lie)

    And the starvation army they play,
    And they sing and they clap and they pray.
    Till they get all your coin on the drum,
    Then they'll tell you when you're on the bum:

    -Chorus-

    Holy Rollers and Jumpers come out,
    And they holler, they jump and they shout
    "Give your money to Jesus," they say,
    "He will cure all diseases today."

    -Chorus-

    If you fight hard for children and wife-
    Try to get something good in this life-
    You're a sinner and bad man, they tell,
    When you die you will sure go to hell.

    -Chorus-

    Workingmen of all countries unite,
    Side by side we for freedom will fight!
    When the world and its wealth we have gained,
    To the grafters we'll sing this refrain:

    -Final Chorus-

    You will eat, bye and bye,
    When you've learned how to cook and to fry.
    Chop some wood, 'twill do you good,
    And you'll eat in the sweet bye and bye.

  9. Nice flamebait re: GWB by halr9000 · · Score: 1, Troll
    FDR tried to alleviate the suffering...by instituting SS...that provided a public benefit.

    Ok and what has SS turned into? A pyramid scheme that is looted by Congress. It's dying and needs to be replaced. Support Bush's plan for SS reform.

    He did not make lies, half-truths, and political doublespeak an Executive Branch SOP.

    Neither do the political candiates whom I trust and believe in. This is your opinion, not a factual argument. Learn to keep the two separate.

    He did not slash corporate taxes, and the tax rate of the very wealthiest Americans, and then shift the tax burdeon onto the backs of the shrinking middle class.

    Ahem. Did you not receive a tax cut? Thank you. And what's more, your argument here is predicated on the "given" that the Government owns all of everything, and that tax cuts "cost" the Government in lost revenue. I don't know about you, but I want to keep *more* of the money I make. I want to "allow" the government to take only that which is necessary to provide what the Constitution says it should--and not a penny more.

    I can't respond as intelligently to the jobs overseas issue, I'm still learning about that. But I think it could be just a phase, frankly. Evidence #1 is when Dell had to "insource" their helpdesk because of customer satisfaction issues with the outsourced provider.

    As far as the health of the economy goes, from what I can tell, the left is using historical figures and the right is using current trends. The left are in effect blaming Bush for the dotcom bubble bursting, which is pretty laughable. Bush is doing a "decent" job helping the economy to recover in a tough time, that's how I read it. The current trends are good, and that is well...good. Sorry, you can't disagree with this, it's an actual fact.

    From all reliable accounts, one of the Bush administration's top policy goals was the invasion of Iraq, from before his inauguration...

    Whoah Nelly! Now you're going a bit off the deep end. I think you have stepped from debate into the realm of fiction. When you get back to earth, let me know and we can continue.

    The rest of your rant is characterized by unsubstantiated rumors, personal gripes, incorrect conclusions, and a disconnection with reality. Sorry, they did find WMD's...hate to break it to ya.

    Do expect Bush to continue promoting religious organizations as the only source of welfare and social assistance.

    Oh I hadn't heard that was something on his platform. I think this is awesome! Let the people help themselves!

    Our welfare system is unfair to everyone: to taxpayers who must pick up the bill for failed programs; to society, whose mediating institutions of community, church and family are increasingly pushed aside; and most of all to the poor themselves, who are trapped in a system that destroys opportunity for themselves and hope for their children.

    From the LP's Poverty & Welfare platform.

  10. Re:We WANT high labor costs! It's a Good Thing! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 0, Troll

    It always kinda cracks me up when I see another unrepentant communist come crawling out of the woodwork. It's like, "Where've you been for the past eighty years, man? How come you're living in the 1920s?"

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  11. Re:All I know is... by jcr · · Score: 0, Troll

    This is blatant disinformation. You're calling the 1930s a routine recession?

    No, read what I wrote: FDR turned a routine recession into the great depression. We'd had recessions before, and the feds didn't go on a panicked binge of power-grabbing and profiligate spending.

    But your attempt to shift the blame from corrupt monopolies that sank the economy to the administration that picked up the pieces is pure propoganda.

    FDR didn't "pick up the pieces", he dynamited the building that was on fire. Oh, and BTW: the monopoly that did the most damage was the Federal Reserve.

    -jcr

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  12. Re:Ohio is a mess... by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 0, Troll

    what bothers me is that the city, as you pointed out, taxed the people to get the thing built to the tune of $191 million dollars

    Right, which is common practice.

    and George and Co. had it negotiated so they could then buy it back for $60 million.

    Also common practice. The city, as I pointed out, paid off the bond in five years. Everybody's square.

    If that isn't welfare for the rich I don't know what is.

    Then you don't know what is. Cool. We've established a baseline.

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  13. Re:All I know is... by EnigmaticSource · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sounds like you're lacking in motivation. Personally it's not as difficult as you make it sound to switch professions, in fact I know quite a few people who have done so as of late, and are better for it.

    I am a programmer first and foremost, unable to find a programming job in this shithole I live in, I work as a heavy equipment mechanic. Got paid on the job training, and It only took about two weeks to get the hang of things (like learning z80 ASM). This I have done on my own merit because I'm not obstinate or lazy, therefore I am willing to do what's needed to survive. There are _plenty_ of jobs... most people are just unwilling to do them. (And that's good for me)

    Enough of my rant. (of and I will be voting GOP, except for Arnold)

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  14. Re:Tariffs make things BETTER, not worse by jpop32 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Our government has a mandate to promote the general welfare of the AMERICAN people, not all people world-wide.

    Yeah. And the US should probably reinstate slavery, right? It would be a great boon for the AMERICAN people, as it has been in the past. The economy would probably soar, fuck the dim-witted africans whose governments failed to protect them! While we're at it, it's probably also OK to carpet bomb the entire middle east and then when all people are dead (hence, no terrorists) you can take the oil without problems and probably ensure another 50 or so years of prosperity. Hey, it's good for the AMERICAN people, and that's what the US government should be thinking about, right?

    I'm deliberately exaggerating here, but when you establish 'us, only us, and fuck the rest' principle it follows from it quite nicely.

    The sooner the general americal public gets that we are all living on the same planet and share the same fate, the better.

    The real kicker in all of this would be if you consider yourself a religious person.