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Dual Opteron SFF PC Tested

Steve writes "Back in May, IWILL announced the ZMAXdp (slashdot article), a dual Opteron SFF PC. Sept 23rd saw a further press release with more details of this intriguing system. At HEXUS.net, we've had the exclusive chance to get one of these systems in our test lab, obtaining pictures and specs along with our own analysys and benchmarks. The system runs suprisingly quiet and cool considering what's under the hood. This could become the system of choice for high-end workstation users who don't want a huge machine taking up their desk-space, or perhaps the toy of choice for those of us who hunger for so much power in such a small system."

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  1. From TFA... by brilinux · · Score: 4, Funny
    In profile, you can see that its quite a long unit from front to back, especially with the PSU housing protruding from the back, J-Lo-esque.

    You know you are a nerd when you compare your computer to Jennifer Lopez...

  2. summary by pbranes · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's the quick summary:

    It's disgustingly well engineered and it works incredibly well.

    Here's a link to a single page that you don't have to click through.

  3. My thoughts about this system by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been following this Iwill SFF for some time, as I'm very interested in it. Here are a few of the distinguishing features:

    * It has a mini-pci slot on the underside of the motherboard, which is meant for a wireless card, and a removable antenna for said card on top of the case.

    * It only has two RAM slots, and lists the maximum RAM as 2GB.

    * The RAM is only connected to CPU0, so any data CPU1 requests will have to be requested through CPU0. This does mean there will be a speed hit, but it isn't major.

    * The MSRP is $499.

    I just hope they offer it in some other color than bright red.

    1. Re:My thoughts about this system by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I thought most of the cheaper Opteron boards only attached memory to CPU0. This reduces the number of board traces. The boards I've seen that exploit all memory channels for a 2P Opteron system cost $500 for the board only, and that's not counting the cost of a WTX/extended ATX case to house that board.

  4. Athlon64/Opteron may well be diasterous for Intel by ShatteredDream · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Intel plans to sell 100,000 Itanium processors, and in the same time frame AMD plans to sell between 1.5 and 2.0 million Athlon64 and Opteron processors. Intel has been left with a 64bit processor that nobody really wants, I have the sneaky suspicion that soon there will be more PowerMacs running 64bit PPCs than Itanium workstations and servers. That alone should tell Intel that the writing is on the wall: adapt or die.

    A friend of mine just put together a dual Opteron workstation for a client, and the price was dirt cheap compared to the Itanium workstations. It was only a few hundred dollars more expensive than a PowerMac G5. Itanium workstations are incredibly expensive and what do you get? A processor that nobody really wants to support in the end.

    Truthfully, I think the biggest winners coming out of this will be Java and .NET as the splintering of the processor market will make the case for virtual machines greater. Why ship 3-5 native binaries when you can ship just 1 binary for a VM instead?

  5. Re:Cube by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Informative
    Although, personally, if I'm looking for power, quiet, and ease of use, I'd just get a dual G5 Mac at this point

    Dual G5 Macs aren't quiet. This is a point of much consternation in Mac forums--with Macs seeming to be ideal for audio work, many are puzzled that Apple doesn't build a truly quiet machine for that niche.

    For somethine really quiet, it looks like your best bet now is to build something yourself. Start with cases and power supplies and cooling from Zalman. Their external water cooling system looks particularly nice, and easy to install.

  6. P-M future could be quiet PC by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The P-M is very, very impressive, but isn't it a dead end? Intel can't be banking on this thing to be their new killer chip.

    Its not 64 bit (which is not a big deal now), its limited to 400 mhz FSB, the P4-M will not be as thifty with juice as the C3, etc. Its ability to do more with less clock cycles is going to hurt Intel's own branding and marketing strategy which is built on the megahertz myth. It is currently outperformed by the old P4 and the opteron.

    Its neat and probably headed towards the desktop (if it isnt there already), but I think the opteron is going to hurt Intel for a while. Perhaps a long while.

    Intel could really make inroads with the P-M/mobo as the basis for a quiet PC. Less heat, less fans, etc. Create some new form factor/standard which has ONE fan. Period. Or none, like Apple.

    The desktop market could really use an industry leader pushing machines which aren't so loud.