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Halflife 2 Delayed Again?

erax0r writes "Gamespot reports that HL2 could be delayed yet again. "Court filings show VU Games has the right to sit on finished Half-Life 2 code for up to six months. Could it be deja vu all over again?"

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  1. I'm ready! by TheGatekeeper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the funny thing is, not being a subscriber, when I click on the "Read More..." button, I see a big ad "Are you ready? HL2" on the side, and I'm thinking to myself, yeah I'm ready, my computer's ready, Valve and VU games are the only ones not ready... c'mon people!

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  2. source code by alatesystems · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I never understood why someone stealing the source code caused a delay before. It's not like they deleted the only copy. They just MADE a copy. I think they just like seeing their title in headlines all the time.

    This game better not suck. What's funnier is a huge HL2 ad on the right when I hit read more.

    Chris

    1. Re:source code by Drakino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The source code theft (an in fact theft of all of the property) didn't delay it much. The code the guy then released to the internet proved Valve could not have made the September 30th 2003 deadline they set.

      The only feasable delay I could see it causing is if they recoded the network stack enough to prevent cheets. It's still not a year delay for that though.

    2. Re:source code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sure the code got stolen, but one really has to think(put on your tinfoil hats boys!) if it wasn't in some way semi planned. I mean what kind of company would let that big a hole in Outlook go unnoticed. It does seem just a bit convient don't you think? Now with the game almost done VU steps in to stop the game being released for some reason. Perhaps they haven't been making Half Life 2 for all these years... I mean if we could look at the RC code I bet we'd see hundreds of lines of "Volcano Insurance" and "Oh my god he's really signing the paper"

    3. Re:source code by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it would have delayed them a week at most, figuring out what they need to change or not.

      the thing is, they weren't ready back then really, they couldn't have had it delivered on their announced dates anyways, code theft scandal or not. and they tried to spin it initially wholly on the code theft.

      the thing is, they've been bullshitting so much before and failed to deliver on their promises that they're really not very trustworthy. the thing is, they're already before been "so close to release it must be just a week or two now! man, check out those vouchers too, they must be ready!" when they were in a state where they couldn't have released it in a year.

      "just wasn't right"== CODE WASNT FINISHED, ART WASNT FINISHED, LEVELS WERENT FINISHED, LEGAL MATTERS WERENT FINISHED, DAMN NOTHING WAS FINISHED.

      would you pay in advance to a guy who you know wont deliver on time?

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  3. And not profit? by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It blows my mind to think that VUG would "sit on" such a big game and not make any money off of it for 6 months when they certainly could use the cash. Does this make sense to anybody else? It doesn't to me.

  4. It's a game of... by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a game of chicken, honestly.

    Vivendi Universal Games is in poor shape financially, and they have been counting on Half-Life 2 to help turn things around. They can, of course, threaten to delay the game past the holiday season as a way to bargain, but it would seem to be suicide to actually do it.

    Delaying past the holiday season hurts both them and Valve. Expect the game to come out this year (November 1st is looking likely, a whole array of retailers recently updated to that date when adding the Half-Life 2 Collector's Edition) and the issue over Steam to be settled later (i.e., if it is discovered that they did something underhanded, Valve may have to fork over a good chunk of change after-the-fact).

    Neither Valve nor VU Games want this delayed, and there is no reason to expect it to be with the first release candidate already in VU's hands.

  5. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. by Daikiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems to me that Vivendi is stuck between a rock and a hard place here. There's no doubt that they need the revenue, and I'm sure they have every intention of being able to put that revenue on their Q4 books. Q4 is what makes or breaks software publishers.

    Their options right now are to either release to retail and see a significant amount of that revenue go directly in to Valve's pockets. Many, many people will be buying this game on Steam if that happens. This isn't the Sims we're talking about. A significant percentage of potential cusomers have high-end machines with broadband connections, and since Steam has been pushing content to its users for a while now, I suspect many of them will just click the button that says 'instant gratification' instead of trundling out to the nearest big box retailer to buy this.

    On the other hand, if Vivendi delays release beyond the Christmas season, and somehow manages to prohibit Valve form releasing on Steam, they will not be able to post that revenue in Q4 and there's a real chance sales will be lower than they would have been had the game been released in time for Christmas.

    The only way Vivendi can win this is by compelling Valve not to release on Steam and still getting the game out in time for Christmas. What they're doing now is simply attempting to buy some time for their lawyers to attempt to achieve this. I suspect that, if no agreement has been reached within the next six to eight weeks, Valve will have effectively called Vivendi's bluff and Vivendi will be forced to release in time for Christmas rather than risk missing the holidays and losing a significant percentage of potential sales to Steam.

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    1. Re:Damned if you do, damned if you don't. by bief · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People who are going to buy HL2 are going to buy HL2.

      That may or may not be true. The real point is that Vivendi wants to book it in the 4th quarter because they have been having financial troubles. Booking it in the 4th quarter means that they can reasonably say to their stakeholders that they are turning things around.

  6. Both sides... by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a weird way, I'd love to see both sides lose this.

    In the red corner, we have Vivendi. The faceless media giant that sums up everything that we're constantly being told is wrong with the games industry. A soul-less money-making machine, with no interest in the quality or artistic merits of the products they put out, determined to grind the poor suffering developers into abject poverty.

    In the blue corner, we have Valve. The developer which seems to be trying to set itself up as a rival to 3d Realms in the contest for the title of "biggest running joke of the gaming industry." They had one excellent hit over half a decade ago, which has been shamelessly miked since then through a series of mediocre expansion packs and "gold" editions. Their latest project is to force everybody who wants to play their games to use a creaking, occasionally-works (kind of) DRM client to run them. The service is erratic, the client is buggy and the only real benefit is for Valve's bank balance.

    Sorry if the above sounds overly negative, but I do think that regardless of how good the end product turns out to be, the entire process of its development does little to cast anybody at all in the industry in a good light.