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Making Tracks on Mars

An anonymous reader writes "In a remarkable series of orbital pictures, the Mars Global Surveyor's cameras have imaged the tracks of the Spirit rover on the surface. Individual debris pieces including the backshell and lander are visible with remarkable clarity using an innovative roll of the satellite."

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  1. Re:An Initiative roll? by spectrokid · · Score: 5, Informative
    Over the past year and a half, the camera and spacecraft teams for Mars Global Surveyor have worked together to develop a technique that allows us to roll the entire spacecraft so that the camera can be scanned in a way that sees details at three times higher resolution than we normally get," said Dr. Ken Edgett, staff scientist for Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego, Calif., which built and operates the Mars Orbiter Camera. The technique adjusts the rotation rate of the spacecraft to match the ground speed under the camera.

    It is a line camera, X resolution is set by number of pixels, Y resolution by mars rotation speed and number of scans per second. If the satelite rolls opposite to mars rotation, it is as if mars rotates more slowly, therefore higher Y resolution. Price to pay is you end up rotating out of view, so smaller pictures, but more detailed ones.

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  2. Re:What else... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't think it would be more massive than the one left on Earth by the Genesis probe...

  3. Re:What does this say about Earth imaging? by dreamchaser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Keep imagining...state of the art spy sattelites can supposedly read license plates and even the rank insignia's on a soldier's uniform.

  4. Hubble HAS imaged Mars by chalker · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hubble has already imaged Mars. The resolution is nowhere close to these new images from MGS. They are images of the entire planet. Check them out here: http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/ releases/1999/27/

  5. Just wait for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you think the images from Mars Global Surveyor look awesome, the images from the upcoming Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter should be nothing short of AWESOME.

    Given that MRO will likely use a modified version of the same camera system used on the Ikonos imaging satellite (Ikonos can resolve down to 100 cm resolution from a 300 km orbit through Earth's thick atmosphere), the combination of the lower orbit and the very thin atmosphere on Mars means there are estimates that the MRO cameras could resolve objects as small as 150 millimeters across in the visual light spectrum! At that resolution, MRO could finally put to bed the controversy about the anomalous features on the Cydonia plain of Mars that some people claim are not natural features of that plain.

    1. Re:Just wait for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. by mopomi · · Score: 4, Informative
      HiRISE on MRO will be able to resolve about 30 cm/pixel, not 150 mm, with a swath width of > 6 km for the greyscale images. It is not a remake of the Ikonos, though it is similar. A slice through the CCD array (I don't remember the number of CCDs in the array off the top of my head--must be 20) of the camera is something like (lameness/HTML filter screws this up--ignore the dots):

      ........BBBB
      PPPPPPPPRRRRPPPPPPPP
      ........GGGG

      Where the middle layer three CCDs deep are the "Blue", "Red", and "Green" (approx.) CCDs, while the others are the panchromatic (really the same as the "Red" in the color portion of the array). Each of the CCDs is something like 1024 pixels across, with a 6 pixel overlap on each side.

      Check out:

      http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/hirise

  6. Re:Terraforming or ecosynthesising mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem with breathing is something called "partial pressure". Partial pressure is the pressure exerted by an individual gas in the atmosphere. You have to have a bare minimum oxygen partial pressure of around 2.4in Hg in order to push enough oxygen through the lining of your lungs and into the bloodstream. That's the pressure at about 2 miles up. 6" Hg is about normal partial pressure at sea level.

    Here's the first hit off of Google for partial pressure:
    http://wine1.sb.fsu.edu/chm1045/notes/Gases/Mixtur es/Gases06.htm

    You also have to have enough air pressure to keep water from boiling at room or body temperature, whichever is higher. Say, about 3" Hg, which is about 10% of normal. That's not much margin of error. Plus, an extremely dry atmosphere will suck the water right out of you.

    You also need a small amount of CO2 to help regulate breathing. Too little and you tend to hyperventilate.

    Nitrogen for plants. Actually, most plants don't use free nitrogen in the atmosphere, but fixed nitrogen (nitrates) in soil. The plants that fix the nitrogen do need the gas.

    And then you have to have some protection from solar radiation.

    I did this seat-of-the-pants, probably got some of it wrong, but the numbers should be somewhere in the ballpark. Anyway, the simple answer is that it's not that simple.

  7. Re:Crap. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Informative
    Can't we go to just ONE other planet without scattering our garbage about willy-nilly?!?!

    Why should we? What possible reason is there to keep every damn thing in the universe in pristine, untouched condition? Besides, it's not like we're going to Mars and throwing a McDonald's bag out the window, scattering burger wrappers and half-eaten McNuggets all over the Martian surface. These are spacecraft components that, first chance we get, will probably be brought back to Earth and examined.

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  8. Re:Terraforming or ecosynthesising mars by applemasker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Without a stable magnetic field to deflect the solar wind, any attempt to increase the atmospheric density on Mars is never going to work. It would be like trying to inflate a balloon with a hole in it. Deatils here.

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  9. Re:Beagle 2, Viking's, Polar Lander, Mars landers. by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would be interested to see if the Viking landers are still visible

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mgs_mpf_viki ng_040107.html

  10. Re:Terraforming or ecosynthesising mars by radtea · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unfortunately for this hypothesis, Venus has no magnetosphere, experiences much stronger solar wind than Mars, and has no shortage of atmosphere.

    So Mars' lack of atmosphere is likely due to a combination of factors, with the lack of magentosphere being perhaps necessary but hardly sufficient. The question for terraformers is whether or not it is possible to create and sustain an environment like the one we have on Earth via biological means.

    It is worth noting that in the absence of life, Earth would be a lot less habitable than it is. That is, life on Earth has created conditions that are suitable for life on Earth. Or more correctly, life on Earth has found relatively open evolutionary niches due to the actions of other life on Earth. The most obvious thing like this is oxygen, which would weather out of the atmosphere in a few million years were it not a waste product thrown away by plants.

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  11. Re:This is nothing new by rpj1288 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, with regard to point #2, the earth and moon are a double planet system, because the moon orbits the sun, not the earth, as evidenced by the fact that it always falls towards the sun. More here: http://www.copernicus.org/EGS/egsga/nice00/program me/abstracts/aac6816.pdf

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