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Securing Pricelessness

DeliBoy writes "In light of public discussions over security after The Scream was stolen, CSO Online offers an interesting look at museum security. The article details a system designed without budget restrictions intended to secure a painting in a public gallery. Interesting how the consultant balances public access with the need for security, comprised of redundant vibration sensors, overlapping microwave and infrared motion sensors, and an old-fashioned guard. "

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  1. Why not just... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Create a super strong plastic box filled with a toxic substance (radioactive/chemical) that's not damaging to the art and have a guard stand outside while another looks on in a camera room somewhere else?

    1. Re:Why not just... by 1984 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You may wish to patent your Magic Box and Magic Substance right away.

      Not only have you found some transparent substance that blocks radioactivity in a way that nothing else does (or what would be the point?) but you've also found a chemical mix that is horribly hazardous to everything except "pieces of art" (I said "art", not "eight").

      You're well clever.

    2. Re:Why not just... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wolverines, I say. Lots and lots of hungry wolverines. And guards with BFGs. Better yet, why not put valuables on a fast-moving slide that can pop up in the air and hang off the ceiling upon alarm, so access takes awhile. Even two-three minutes could make a difference. A simple set of rails on the ceiling and a pre-tensioned draw-cable could do it. Imagine a garage door opener spring and cable drum on steroids.

  2. Securing Pricelessness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Security - $699

    Museum Ticket - $17

    Pricelessness - Priceless!

    1. Re:Securing Pricelessness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Security - $699
      They got it from SCO?!
  3. too complex for practical use.. by dwipal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i wonder how they will be calibrating all these many things to fire the right alarm. a mischievious person might get some kicks by raising false alarms every now and then, as all he has to do is to point a finger near the painting. i also wonder how they will test it, and keep it maintained without a large time overhead.

    1. Re:too complex for practical use.. by homerjs42 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Almost all museums that I've been to (admittedly a fairly small set -- the ones in LA and London mostly ;) Have at least some sort of motion detector in front of the artwork. And they do in fact get lots of false alarms -- somebody leans in too close and sets the alarm off. Usually the guard/guide/some guy wearing a blue suit comes over pretty quickly to see what the beeping is about and tells the person to lean back. So I guess that they don't mind that much about having some false alarms.

      For what it's worth :)

      vote for Oscar Berger.

  4. Comment from Article by hypermike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comment from the article, kinda interesting.

    My experience with Museum Directors and Curators is they like to show painting without intrusiveness, such as a low rail or rope. One thing that is less intrusive than placing a low rail/rope across the painting, is putting pressure sensors undernest the flooring that are wired in an alarm point system. This can be addressable to the painting name, gallery and location. Which is capable of notifying the control room security staff as well as the guard in the gallery. Example: if the alarm should be activated the camera would automatic override the monitor that the security staff may be looking at to and give immidate location of the painting as well as the orgin of the alarm right on the monitor. It is also possible to have your CCTV system program to follow movement such as room to room. The options are unlimited with today technology.

    P.S. Because of todays technology, the trend is now away from breaking after hours into museum-its now armed robbery during public hours.

    Alton Malcolm
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    1. Re:Comment from Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3588282.st m

      A notable example of a brazen daylight robbery was the recent theft of "The Scream".

      This is the same thing as what is happening to car theft these days. The alarm systems and locks are so good that the way to steal a high end car is while its owner is in it.

      In both cases, the result is that better alarms have caused much greater danger to the people involved. Progress? Maybe not.

    2. Re:Comment from Article by karnal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We might as well have the ability to protect things that are really important, like priceless art.

      I don't know about you, but I'd be more worried about saving my ass than I would a few paintings.

      However, would the proper precautions be in place, we could save the paintings, and save ourselves in the same place!!!

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    3. Re:Comment from Article by Binary+Boy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem with moving art is that's when it's most vulnerable. Working in a similarly top-notch museum, I can pretty much assure you that in such a major emergency, nothing is going anywhere.

      The biggest risk seems to be takeover robberies these days, as the article aludes to. Museum guards are not typically armed, at least not in public, and they certainly are not trained to resist armed intruders in daylight with visitors around.

      Nighttime security is relatively easy - but balancing daylight security with the public's interests (casual, non-militarized galleries) is a toughy. Even in a place like where I work - a heavily fortified site on a easily defended hill overlooking Los Angeles - I can imagine with the right balls and some big guns, you aren't going to be stopped by museum security. You may have the SWAT team responding by the time you hit the gates, but I can imagine a quick exit route or three.

      Not that I've ever thought of such things.

      But again, other than a few national treasures - the Constitution in DC, several copies of Magna Cart - the risk of moving them in an emergency is not worth it.

    4. Re:Comment from Article by tmalone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, I'm quite sure that if we wer to lose the Mona Lisa, society would simply melt away. You are placing much too high of an importance on art. I love art. I go to the art museum at least once a month. In any new city the art museum is one of my first stops. No piece of art is so important that even one life should be traded for it. Yes, it would be a shame if the entirety of our society were lost, but that isn't very likely is it? Also, if something so catastrophic were to occur that all art were destroyed, I'm pretty sure all of use would be dead too. If we did survive, what would it really matter if we had the originals or some postcards of the Mona Lisa? People inevitably die, but so does art. Paintings won't last forever, they fade, they crack. Same with sculptures, same with photos. It's inevitable. Society's survival does not require art. New art will be created. That's what people do. I have a feeling that the pain of long dead artists will mean little to the few survivors of nuclear annihilation.

  5. Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A beowulf cluster of sec....no

    Securing my preciiouusss...no

    1. Steal Priceless Object 2. ???? 3. Profit!!!

  6. By an old-fashioned guard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...do they mean one that always opens doors and pulls our chairs for the ladies, or one that shakes his fist at teen-aged whippersnappers?

  7. Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Put a fake on display, and hide the real one somewhere else.

    1. Re:Here's an idea by Bobdoer · · Score: 2, Funny
      hide the real one somewhere else.

      I know where! Put it in a safe behind the fake. They'll never find it there!

    2. Re:Here's an idea by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are merely restating the grandparent post in a way that sounds contrary. The recurring sentiment is, the medium is not the message. This is most definitely false, as even a moment's thought will reveal that there is no medium that doesn't affect its message to some degree.

      So, to summarize: While it's a great antitheft idea, showing copies of art in a museum defeats the purpose of having museums.

  8. Didn't anyone tell him? by cephyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Keller likes to alarm windows and fasten them closed whenever possible.

    Didn't anyone tell him that proprietary closed windows models are inherently insecure and that an open-window solution is the better route?

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    1. Re:Didn't anyone tell him? by zx75 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I also don't think he enjoys having the public improving upon existing works...

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  9. manic collector by nbert · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before anyone comes up with theories about manic collectors being behind of it all - there isn't a single case in history where a stolen painting was found in the basement of an art aficionado. It's mostly about blackmailing the insurance company in charge - it makes sense for them to pay 2 millions to the thief instead of paying 10 millions for the loss.

    1. Re:manic collector by lewiscr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Too bad it wasn't insured.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3590702 .s tm

    2. Re:manic collector by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 4, Funny
      there isn't a single case in history where a stolen painting was found in the basement of an art aficionado.

      Yes, you're quite correct. I keep my stolen paintings in the attic.

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  10. Sounds good, but.... by marktaw.com · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "First, I want to see everyone who walks in--with a good picture. And I want security checks of carry-ins there"--in other words, backpacks and purses.
    This was the security model at my old job. Sure it prevented people from getting in with anything funny, but you could take whatever you want when you left and nobody bothered to check. People walked out with laptops, probably on a regular basis. Event he ones with the little wire security system were sawed through.
    1. Re:Sounds good, but.... by G-funk · · Score: 2, Funny

      1. Make them carry an RFID badge as a condition of entry.

      2. Track how much they eat at the caffeteria, or if they go to take a dump

      3. Weigh them on the way in, and weight them on the way out.

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  11. Put guards outside by Caius_Julius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Snipers nest with a view of the door...or at least someone outside the place to see the getaway.

    1. Re:Put guards outside by hayden · · Score: 4, Funny
      Snipers nest with a view of the door...or at least someone outside the place to see the getaway.
      Bloody campers.
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  12. Theft will continue by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most art objects are stolen to order, they are not crimes of opportunity. When a 'collector' is prepared to chough up enough cash professional thieves will invest the time and effort to defeat the security.

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    1. Re:Theft will continue by SlamMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Got anything to back that up? Can't recall the last time I ran across a a survey of professional art thieves' motivations. I'd assume it'd be more useful for blackmailing an insurance company.

      I mean, seriously, outside of movies, how often do you think billionaires hire thieves to steal artwork?

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  13. RFID Chips? by e9th · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why not embed them in each artwork? I bet there's a way to do it in most pieces without damaging them.

    Sensors at the exits, guards in the parking lot, etc.

    1. Re:RFID Chips? by ericzundel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you smuggled in aluminum foil and wraped up the painting in that, wouldn't you defeat this simple security measure?

    2. Re:RFID Chips? by e9th · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, although I suspect you would have a hard time doing it covertly.

    3. Re:RFID Chips? by mblase · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why not embed them in each artwork?

      Because generally, it's easy to tell when a priceless work of art has been stolen without checking the logs at the exit door.

  14. Rats by filtur · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was hoping this was going to be an article about people getting caught in comprising positions.

  15. But the problem was by dzym · · Score: 4, Insightful
    But I thought the problem was that the museum did NOT have an unlimited budget for security?

    Not to mention that when you get guns pulled on you you generally try not to get shot. Even if it ends up costing you something priceless (which still ends up as being less precious than human life, no matter how fine the art).

    1. Re:But the problem was by Cecil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      really? you really think your more important to the world than say, the mona lisa or something like that?

      Who isn't? Maybe that homeless guy on the street who calls me names. Other than that though, all people will over the course of their lives perform some action that will further the human race in some miniscule way. That is more than can be said about the Mona Lisa. It may inspire someone, perhaps, but there is little evidence that it would do so more than any other painting or piece of artwork.

      There are some things worth dying for. A single piece of art isn't one of them. What if Picasso had died young while trying to save someone else's prized painting? It makes absolutely no sense to value a thing above a person. A person is what creates things.

    2. Re:But the problem was by Eivind+Eklund · · Score: 3, Interesting
      It makes absolutely no sense to value a thing above a person.

      This statement is a false axiom; it leads to contradictions. Let me give you the correct axioms: A thing only has value as a means to do something - it is always relative. Let's for instance say that I'm in a triage situation after a major car accident - 30 cars hit each other on the autobahn, lots of wounded, and I have a roll of tape, which can be used to stabilize the position of the heads of people so they can breathe. There's roughly fifty wounded, and I've only got enough tape to bind up 25 of these. In this case, I may let a person die to save the piece of tape necessary to bind them up. Here, I value their life below a piece of tape - and it is a correct decision, because that piece of tape can be used to save another life.

      The judgement scales up to more abstract situations. We do not have infinite resources pushed into health care - another case of putting a higher value on "things" (money) than lives. Every skyscraper built has some construction workers die - it's "part of doing business", We as a society has limited resources, and some people will actually die as a result of this. It is brutal, and it is an inevitable result of living in a real world.

      As for the value of Mona Lisa vs human life: I've actually got a figure for the value of human life, from military operations. That's $2 million plus training costs for the individual. As far as I know, this is in rough (give or take a factor of 3) agreement with the values assigned in other contexts where we actually have to calculate with human lives due to limited resources.

      I don't know the value of the Mona Lisa - but I know that The Scream was valued (apart from "priceless" ;) at about $80 million. We as a society run by demand and supply has ended up with a market value (the relative value in the free situation) of at least ten people for that one painting (and Mona Lisa is definately more expensive).

      A person is what creates things.

      Can't argue with that, except when it's a monkey that makes the art and an abstract painter that sells it ;-)

      Eivind.

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  16. Install a embedded GPS device and let them steal.. by dwipal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and then catch those theives. Of course, some basic "preventive" security is must. some RFID also will help.

  17. the scream by prof187 · · Score: 2, Informative

    for anybody who doesn't know, or wasn't sure, which painting The Scream is, here...

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  18. GOOD LORD!!!! Let me save them some $$$$ by arfonrg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just secure a thick sheet of glass/lexan/plexiglass between the pictures and the people!

    DUH!!!

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  19. Re:Sharks... by slarshdot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Send out the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouths so when they bark they shoot bees at you?

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  20. Indeed by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not like 99.9% of the population are going to be able to tell the difference between a decent copy and an original. Rather than being funny, it sounds like one of the better ideas.

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    1. Re:Indeed by CJ+Hooknose · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Syriloth: From what I've heard, this is pretty common [...] Frequently your average Statue of Isis or whatnot on display at a museum is actually just a high-quality cast of the original.

      Colin Smith: It's not like 99.9% of the population are going to be able to tell the difference between a decent copy and an original.

      Yep, it's widespread and very useful, because then the original can remain with the professionals while the amateurs get something that's 99% as good. I remember going to the British Museum and seeing one room where they had reproductions of Michelangelo's David, Trajan's Column, and 5 or 6 other famous sculptures. I never would've been able to see the originals. I'm not sure how you'd copy paintings though.

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    2. Re:Indeed by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 4, Funny
      I'm not sure how you'd copy paintings though

      Here's an idea

    3. Re:Indeed by bobbozzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      "The Museum Company", a mall chain store in the US, was selling "3-D Laser scanned" reproductions of Monet, Van Gogh and other paintings which are out of copyright.

      They looked real-enough to me (they had brush strokes, etc.).

      The store by me has closed, and I don't see any paintings on their web site, so I'm not sure if they are still doing it.

      They were selling for $350-600 for 2-3 foot paintings.

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  21. Re:Bah... by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I mean, it's not like we haven't already seen these paintings before.."

    I never really appreciated Van Gogh until I was in the same room with one of his paintings. There is an important dimension which is lost in any reproduction.

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  22. If only... by linuxwrangler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, if budget is no object...but it is.

    I build an alarm system for a major campus art museum back in the day. This was no small affair - we were replacing an old system that never worked well. The old system had vibration sensors on all the panes in the skylights. Unfortunately these sensors were not only unreliable but also worked in groups of a couple dozen sensors for a skylight area and all sensors had to be calibrated together - a very time-consuming process as it involved after-hours work up on a 30-40 foot airlift (with all tools on teathers to protect the art, of course) and also involved removing the diffuser panel under each of the glass panes. Needless to say the skylights were soon unprotected. We replaced these with redundant infrared motion detectors covering all skylight entry points.

    Also, the old system had sensors in groups so when an alarm went off (or went bad) you only got a general area of the problem. We replaced this with about 150-200 individual zones. Every door and every motion detector was on a separate zone. In addition, we had a custom made map of the museum with lights for each alarmed door or zone so the central guard could immediately see where the alarm was coming from. Problems were easy to fix - no hunting down a bad switch from among 20 or 30.

    We had several pan/zoom cameras with motion-detection capability. A time-lapse recorder ran constantly and sped up to full-speed when motion was detected.

    The security room was upgraded with steel walls and bulletproof glass. In addition, being a campus-run museum, a duplicate alarm receiver was installed at police dispatch (no maps, just a printer showing alarms).

    The central guard could control all the lighting in the museum and speak to or listen to anywhere in the museum through the intercom/speaker system.

    There's more but all-in-all it was a heck of a system and fun to build.

    The end result: management cut back all but one of the off-hours guards (the one in the control room) and eventually cut that person as well since, after all, the alarms went to the police station anyway...

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  23. It will all get lost by JanneM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any work of art (or any physical object) will be lost at some point. Maybe not today, maybe not this century, but for any artwork, at some point, the circumstances will will collude to lose it it some manner. Increasing the efforts to counteract that may delay the inevitable, but will not prevent it.

    So, what do you do? Encase the piece in extreme layers of security to stave off its inevitable dissolution - but then also greatly hinder any real appreciation of the work by spectators? It's not easy to enter a contemplative frame of mind facing a painting at four or five meters, through ten cm of safety glass and surrounded by armed guards.

    Or, we accept its eventual destruction or loss as inevitable, relax the measures a bit, and let people appreciate it - _really_ appreciate it, up close and undisturbed - while it lasts.

    If I'd been a sappy touchy-feely type, I'd made a comment about how that is a lesson for life as well, but I'm not, so I won't.

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  24. What would Munch think of it? by MasterDirk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Being Norwegian I was quite interested in this, as were the Norwegian media. The largest Norwegian television-channel, NRK, interviewed a biographer of Munch's. When asked what he supposed Munch would have thought of this theft he replied something like (and I'm translating off the top of my head here):

    If it were on one of Munch's better day's he'd probably say something like: "The Geniality of the artwork lies in the Thought and the Act, not in the Result. The Thought caused the Act, and I did it. The work itself is of little importance." But, Munch was a temperemental man so he might have been livid.

    And it wasn't exactly the only example of The Scream ("Skrik"), as there are several other versions made by Munch around the world. Still, I wish the thieves all possible good luck in selling the best-known image in the western world without being found out :)

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  25. Re:Of course that's nothing... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
    Actually, anyone saying they were Securing Pricelessness would probably have the humour-deprived legal monkeys at MasterCard sending them a Cease and Desist... like these guys http://www.attrition.org/news/mc/

    It's getting to you can't even speak without infringing someone's bs copyrights : "drivers wanted" (VW), "do the right thing" (Quaker Oats), "just do it" (Nike), "hello, world" (SCO).

  26. Re:Install a embedded GPS device and let them stea by rawket.scientist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, but thieves often cut paintings free of their frames to make them easier to move, hide, etc. It's kind of a lost cause to bug a painting, unless you put the locator in an indispensable part of the canvas itself, and I don't think many curators would do that to a pricless masterpiece.

    Plus, to bring it back to someone else's point, most major art thefts are going to involve ginormous insurance liabilities. Those insurance companies don't want to encourage wary thieves to go poking through the Mona Lisa with a pair of tweezers.

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  27. Re:If money was no object... by NuclearDog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe he means indestinguishable (sp?) by someone standing a few feet away looking it it (EG: a collector), not someone with a lot of time and money pouring random chemicals on parts of the painting to determine the age.

    ND

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  28. Re:GOOD LORD!!!! Let me save them some $$$$ by Tanktalus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, since you asked ...

    Seriously, I don't see a problem with GP's idea. Last time I was at Le Louvre, admittedly in the late 80's, the Mona Lisa was behind plexiglass, reflected on two mirrors, and physically located at least a storey away (to me, a grade 9 student at the time, it seemed pretty cool). If it's that important, that's what the museum will do. For whatever reason, The Scream was not priceless enough to warrant this.

  29. a simple solution....? by Rastan_B2 · · Score: 2

    this seems like an obvious solution that I just thought of, but I'll post it anyways. For the really nice artworks that need protecting, the room has 2 doors to get into it (separated with a small hallway). Both doors cannot be opened at the same time. Have a sensor on the artwork that locks both doors when lifted.

  30. Re:Sharks... by G-funk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Smithers! Release the robotic Richard Simmons.

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  31. "Is that a Monet on the wall?" by SnappingTurtle · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Reminds me of my short stint working in a museum. As part of procedure the first few days I was there I met with the chief of security to be indoctrinated on security rules.

    During the meeting I suddenly realized that the nice little painting hanging on the wall wasn't just a print... it was a real, live, authentic Monet.

    I asked about it and the security guy shrugged. He said that like most museums they had far more art in storage than on display, and so they often used it in office decoration.

    I mean, the thing didn't have so much as a plastic covering to protect against coffee spills. I remember thinking that there'd be no way I'd want such a thing in my office.

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  32. Anti-integration by Phreakiture · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the part that impressed me: 9 Closed-circuit TV cameras . . . Anti-integration makes things difficult for the bad guys; it means they will have to break two systems instead of one.

    Redundancy is a Good Thing. Heterogeneous redundancy is a Better Thing. Here endeth the lesson.

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  33. Maier museum at RWMC-Project Y by edremy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a little concerned about the loss of large collections of priceless art due a bombing of a museum. This might be the destruction of the building with a bomb, missle, or aircraft. Or even the loss of the museum when the city around is destroyed by an atomic weapon. It seems that there should be plans to get, say, a hundred paintings maybe several hundred feet underground within ten minutes should authorities determine that a nuclear event is imminent. Especially for the collections like the National Gallery in Washington DC, the National Gallery in London, the Louvre in Paris, the Uffizi in Florence.

    Interestingly, I work at Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg VA, and just got back ten minutes ago from a tour of the Maier Museum with a student discussion group I lead.

    The Maier is the 1950's version of exactly what you describe. It was built in 1951 as a bomb shelter for the National Gallery in case of nuclear attack on Washington. There was a fleet of trucks always at the ready outside the gallery to grab the most "valuable" artworks and run them down to the Maier. The building is basically a blockhouse, although it has been spiffed up a lot since.

    With advances in technology, it became clear in the 1970s that this just wasn't going to work. (Not to mention Lynchburg has a large number of nuclear industries here like Framatone, so we're a huge target anyway.) They quietly abandoned the whole thing about then and formally gave it up in 2001, but there's still a clause in the contract that we'll take art from the Gallery if there's a major concern. Given the inherent problems of moving very fragile art quickly, I suspect that nobody is really interested in doing something like this.

    BTW: The Maier now focuses on American art from RMWC's collection. It's a damn good museum, especially given the size of the college.

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