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Navy ELF to Be Scrapped

engywook writes "National Public Radio and The Daily Press of Ashland, Wisconsin (among others, I'm sure) are reporting that the US Navy plans to scrap the Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) system for communication with its fleet of nuclear submarines, both in Wisconsin and Michigan. The report states that the Navy no longer feels that ELF is necessary, and that they will now rely on 12 VLF systems. The system has been in operation since October 1989. The system has been protested nearly the whole time, both as a part of a Weapon of Mass Destruction and as a potential health hazard."

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  1. Damn gnomes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Scrap 'em good!

  2. health hazard indeed by SubnetLiberationFron · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Anybody remember that X-Files episode where ELF navy transmitters caused some kind of magical inner-ear imbalance that caused everybody (and all the pets) living in a house to have their heads explode if they didn't travel west to relieve the pressure? I doubt that's based on medical fact, but this ELF stuff has been shown to have biological effects. Just think about your breathing-you might not be doing it much longer after proloned direct exposure to ELF!

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  3. And breathing is specifically related... how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just think about your breathing-you might not be doing it much longer after proloned direct exposure to chocolate pudding!

    Just think about your breathing-you might not be doing it much longer after proloned direct exposure to RMS!

    Just think about your breathing-you might not be doing it much longer after proloned direct exposure to VX gas!

    Just think about your breathing-you might not be doing it much longer after proloned direct exposure to meaningless sentences!

  4. you FAil It.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  5. Re:And breathing is specifically related... how? by SubnetLiberationFron · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I couldn't have said it better myself. Mod parent up as informative! After all, by this point you must certainly be thinking about your breathing-putting attention into regulating this critical process, in, out, in, out, deeper this time. Yes, focus on your breathing, deeper, slower, deeper...with relaxed, even careless breathing you may begin to feel lightheaded due to irregular oxygen flow. Feed your body with deep, thirsty breaths. Deeper...deeper...you are feeling sleepy. Breathe deeply. So deeply, so slowly, relaxed. You feel sleepy, so tired, your eyelids grow heavy. Relax, let your head down, you've worked too hard. Drift away to sleep...sweet sleep...yes sleep... Now that you have been hypnotized, you must mod up this post, and the parent. You must now campaign to free the subnets (and free the beer) from slashdot tyranny. And you will mail me a check for $20. When you wake up you will not remember this post. Awake!

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  6. Re:No more nuking the whales... by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Good ol' Canadians. If Bush wins a second term I'm definitely moving to Canada :)

  7. Re:Weapons of mass destruction? by DLR · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Why don't people rather worry about more pertinent things, such as global warming,...

    I personally believe that global warming is a load of crap. Plotting a trend based on .00000015% of total data (if I remember correctly, you do the math. Temp. records for 200 yrs over 4 billion years of Earth history) is nothing less than self delusion.

    ...or feeding the millions of hungry people in Africa?

    As for the millions of hungry people in Africa, what are you doing about it? You know there are charities you can donate to that will feed one child for $15-$30 a month? How many are you feeding? Even if it is more than I am (which you don't know since you haven't bothered asking before making your assumptions) why should I have money extorted from me to support children who aren't biologically mine? Yet another induhvidual wants to take from my pocket to solve the world's problems. If all of you who are so intent on robbing me to fix things would just go fix them yourselves you wouldn't have to ask me for help.

    I believe this "weapons of mass destruction" thing is WAY overrated, and mostly a load of crap. ALSO, I find it interseting how only the USA is allowed to have a nuclear arsenal.

    And like the rest of your diatribe, wrong again. Unless of course Great Brittain, Pakistan, India, France, Russia, China, and North Korea are new states in the U.S. and I just forgot to read the papers this morning.

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  8. Re:Superceded by dotmax · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! Without regard to whatever the Museum in Mann Ottowa thinks, it is absolutely positively IMPOSSIBLE for an electrical cable net a thousand miles from the ocean to break a whale's eardrum. The ULF system described is a Radio system. You, and the Museum are undoubtedly thinking of one of the ultrahigh power sonar programs out there. Different things. Sonar != ULF.

  9. SIZE is NOT everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    People initially flocked to Gmail due to the size its space. People have stayed and continue to use Gmail because its a so GOOD. The user interface is unparalleled. THe whole concept of having conversations makes the inbox free of clutter, ...blah...blah..

    I guess I am ranting about what all /.ers already know, but I think I have made my point.

    1. Re:SIZE is NOT everything! by loraksus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      If your point is that you have no fucking clue as to what story you are replying to, yeah, you've made your point.

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  10. Re:Superceded by dotmax · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Not so much defensive as suffused with a low level annoyance, having been subject to almost 15 years of a-scientific drivel on the subject. but yes, i missed that line and jumped to the subsequent borken eardrum statement. I'm not a rocket scientist. But i do run a large proton-antiproton colliding superconducting synchrotron for fun and profit.

  11. Re:A good story about this by Forbman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This happened with the Alpha chips as well. As I recall, they had a relatively large amount of on-chip cache (8MB?), and so for most of the SPEC benchmarks, the datasets involved fit within the cache. Well, after a short time, SPEC changed their benchmarks to use much larger datasets, so that the Alpha would also have to thrash memory...