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Celsius 41.11: A Rebuttal to Michael Moore

Posted by michael on from the and-he's-fat-too dept.

deezl writes "Michael Moore released a controversial movie revealing 'facts' about the Bush Presidency. A new rebuttal has just been released called Celsius 41.11. I would think that time sensitive political commentaries would be available for download to ensure the widest possible distribution base. If documentary makers are so interested in getting their message out and arguments across, why not encourage free BitTorrent type distribution for their movies?"

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  1. But... by Issue9mm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Michael Moore DID encourage downloading of his movie via Bittorrent, and other means.

    -9mm-

    1. Re:But... by thoughtterrorist · · Score: 5, Informative

      The links explains it as "The temperature as which the brain begins to die". Modded insightful for being too lazy to visit the link, that's absurd..

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      If I told you that was last year, would you know what I meant?
  2. Warning: Adult Content by JMandingo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The video has some shocking content. The worst was a clip of a kid getting his fingers chopped off. That almost made me ralph with the hangover I have this morning.

    --
    Vonnegut was right: Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are, "It might have been."
  3. David Bossie by kaos_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some notes on David Bossie.

  4. Other antidotes to "Fahrenheit 9/11" by yo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two new films offer a rebuttal to the slanted views of Michael Moore. Michael Moore Hates America and FahrenHYPE 9/11 . Both are due to be released to DVD on October 5th to coincide with the DVD release of Fahrenheit 9/11. I have yet to see either of these films, but the trailers look compelling.

    For an detailed rebuttal of Fahrenheit 9/11 read Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11 .

  5. Re:No, it's far worse than that. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 4, Informative
    he shows a clip of some politician claiming "and we've set up an 800 number so you can call us and complain," and inserts a little subtitle claiming "this isn't true." The truth is that the phone number was (and still is) a 1-888 number

    Wrong. At the time F911 came out, there was no number at all. Only in response to the movie was the number created. (And it's not 888, either)

    The most balanced objective take on the file I've seen so far is the point by point list of deceits.

    I can already find multiple obvious lies in that file... and an even greater number of deciets (using truth in a misleading way). The single funniest mistake is #21, although it's irrelevant to the overall theme. The Crusader was NOT a missile! There's even some weird things like #35 and #36, which affirms a fact and then immediately claims it's not true- even though that same document just said so! #42 is funny too, because by those standards, the Bush Administration were also Al Quaeda collaborators.

    #58 is by far the gravest lie and reveals a true bias by the file's author:
    1. In Fahrenheit, Moore pretends to support our troops. But in fact, he supports the enemy
    In reality, he said the enemy was going to win; that's a pessimistic prediction, not a statement of support. For example, I don't support G.W. Bush, but I do say he's going to win re-election.

    Still, it would be nice to have a version of F911 containing only the facts, minus Moore's leading sarcasm. Bush would only come off worse if you actually sit there watching him for 7 minutes without a stream of jokes in the background. Maybe a special "no director commentary" feature on the DVD.