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Auto Accident at SANE Conference Kills One

Several people have submitted news from SANE 2004 that a car crash involving several Free Software developers has killed one and injured two others. Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident.

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  1. I'm shivering... by smari · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Shit. I know one of those guys. It's messed up to read something like that on /.

    1. Re:I'm shivering... by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting
      [ Warning: never ask an old guy about the past, he's likely to answer you. ]

      My mistake, we met 24 years ago, not 25. It was on the Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium's (MECC) mainframe. It was a CDC Cyber 72 that was operated on behalf of all the schools in Minnesota. We had 110 baud modems with acoustic couplers and teletypes. Many (all?) of the community colleges, public high schools and even some of the elementary schools had a terminal or two tucked away in a math or science room somewhere. MECC also had an email application, and the "list" command would list all of the email accounts. (Just picture typing "list" and getting a list of all valid email addresses today!)

      MECC was huge in Minnesota schools in the 1970s. Today, they're probably best remembered for having produced educational games such as Oregon Trail and Odell Lake. But back then, having computer access in public schools was a novel concept, and most of those of us who became computer nerds have all done quite well for ourselves. There are even a few MECCies here on Slashdot.

      One day, I found an email from someone named "SWEETHEART" (we didn't have lower case back then :-) who found my username funny. We began exchanging emails, we moved our conversations to some of the "talk" programs (these programs were the great-grandparents of IRC, only with nicer interfaces) and exchanged phone numbers. Eventually, we met, started going out, and now we've been married 20 years with a 16-year-old hacker son to show for it.

      It was a different time; definitely a more innocent era. The only people with access to the computers were students -- we didn't worry about predators or pedophiles.

      --
      John
  2. My condolence to the family... by Yaa+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yesterday I was demonstrating on the dam square in Amsterdam with some of the people involved. I want to express my deepest respect...

  3. A great friend left us in a brutal way :( by dimmu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Knowing hans since 1999 this is a real shock :( Condoleances to everybody who knew him :(

    We'll miss you!

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    -- Cliff Albert
  4. Re:I don't understand by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In addition to the other responses you'll get, please check out this thread. You'll notice that a handful of the posts are from people that knew these individuals, or had been around them within the past few days.

    There's a good chance that 1 slashdot account will never be used again, which is a sad thing for us all. Not to mention that the individual that died wasn't just a member of the community, he was a contributor... something that makes him stand apart from most of us.

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    You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. --Winston Churchill
  5. For those of you wondering... by Mentorix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hans Bakker was the organizer of several NE2000 camps. Ne2000 is a yearly event where about 200 people show up with their tents/campers/caravans and plug into the network, it's a fairly open source oriented happening. I've seen and spoken Hans around there although I wasn't a close friend of him or anything. He has also participated in several open source projects.

    The people involved in this car accident are all from the same fairly big group of "young" open source fans in The Netherlands that keep contact with each other over IRC and also IRL. Therefore I'm not surprised that this story was submitted by several readers. I hope this explains why it is important, I know I was shocked and saddened by the loss.

  6. Re:Condolances by Loco3KGT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let me introduce you to my family...

    My grandmother recently passed away. While at the funeral home reviewing the work of the embalmer (or whoever puts on the makeup/etc) the funeral director asked what they thought. My Mother made the comment that they had done an excellent job and that she looked wonderful. My Uncle said, and I'll never forget it...

    "Yes, she looks great. So great that I'm thinking of bringing my wife down here."

    Sometimes you just have to make light of the situation if you're going to try to get through it. I don't think there's a single /.er on here that is happy because this event happened and of the few jokes I've seen have none have been negative/insensitive.

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    Blessed be he who reads this post, Cursed be he who tells my boss.
  7. maybe why, Re:Well you see buddy... by samjam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's a good question, and I think the answer lies in how much of your life was tied up in the life of the other person.

    For some insight into this you might want to read this extract of chapter 21 of "The Little Prince"

    "What does that mean--tame?"

    "It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. "It means to establish ties."

    "To establish ties?"

    "Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world . . ." .....

    if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the color of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat . . . "

    The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time. "Please--tame me!" he said.

    You can read more at http://students.washington.edu/yana/LP.htm or various other locations shown by google

  8. Re:RMS & comp. by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It used to be (before a new workload came crashing down on everyone) that occasionally a large group of us would go to lunch together in one guy's Suburban (nicknamed the War Wagon). The head of the division (who knows the network back and forth and one of two people with access to the firewalls and high-level ACLs), the head of security (the other guy with access to the firewalls and high-level ACLs and backup IDS man), the primary IDS guy, the head of the networking team, the head of the database team (and the only one who knows some of the more archaic systems), and the head of the remote access team, together with a couple of us peons, would all load up in the War Wagon. One day, the driver had to swerve to avoid what could have become a very bad accident, and we spent the lunch wondering how the rest of the division would recover from the loss of seven or eight people, five of whom were key to operations.

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    You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
  9. Sorry, better formatting by Omni-Cognate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a lovely poem, by Eden Philpotts. I think it makes a very appropriate dept.

    GHOSTIES AT THE WEDDING.

    Turn down a glass afore his place;
    Draw up the dog-eared chair;
    For though we shall not see his face,
    I think he will be here
    Our wedding day to share.

    Turn up the glass where she would be
    And put a red rose there.
    Her quick, grey eyes we cannot see,
    But weren't they everywhere,
    And shall not they be here?

    Though them old blids are in the grave
    And their good light's gone out,
    We'd sooner their kind ghosties have
    Than all the living rout
    As will be there no doubt.

    For some are dead as cannot die.
    Some flown as cannot flee.
    You still do fancy 'em near by.
    'Tis so with him and she,
    At any rate to we.

    --

    "The Milliard Gargantubrain? A mere abacus - mention it not."

  10. Re:I am deeply sorry for the loss of life by ihaddsl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    However, with all of the SUV bashing you see on this site, it should be mentioned that they are the safest vehicles on the road.

    Bullshit.

    While it's true that if you are in a huge SUV and hit a car, the SUV will come off better, the overall safety picture is not good for SUV drivers.

    The additional mass also has downsides. In single vehicle accidents it's better to have less mass as there is less energy to dissipate. According to the NHTSA, single vehicle accidents accounted for only 18% of crashes, but 44% of fatalities.

    Larger vehicles have longer stopping distances, increasing the likelyhood of a crash.

    Also figures from the NHSTA show that SUV fatality rates are 11% higher than cars.

    According to those statistics, the safest vehicles are minivans, with a fatality rate of 2.76 per billion miles travelled, 2nd were large cars, with a rate of 3.3 fatalities per billion miles. The largest SUV's came in 3rd with 3.79 fatalities per billion miles

    time to adjust your review mirror methinks

  11. Re:Condolances by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Any Christians (or other faiths, for that matter) should say a quick prayer for everyone involved.

    Why? Being an outsider to religion, this is one of the notions about it that always seemed self-contradictory to me. The god as described by most religions wouldn't re-assign his distribution of benevolence based on a popular vote. To say that a lot of people praying for someone else has an effect on that person leads directly to the conclusion that god cares more about famous sufferers than anonymous ones. And that doesn't fit the personality most religions ascribe to their god. It just doesn't seem consistent at all to me.

    Now, praying about other people's misfortunes might be a way to demonstrate to your god that you aren't selfish, but according to the tenets of most religions, it really shouldn't have any effect on them at all, but maybe it would have some effect on you, and make *you* feel better about it.

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    Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.

  12. Showing Respects by hyfe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Troll -1, Here I Come!

    Reading 100's of strangers passing their respect to yet somebody they've never met dieing gives me a funny feeling.

    How many people die each day? And of those, how many lead sorrowfull lives, filled with pain and suffering? How many of you pay a thought to them, and of those of you who do, are you willing to take a large dent in your own wealth to help them? Are you willing to spare your own time?

    Its a common fact that people really don't care about strangers, but this shirade of caring when the opportunity arises makes me want to puke.

    (To those who knew the victims, apologies for ranting, this was certainly not directed at you)

    --
    "" How about taking the safety labels off everything, and let the stupidity-problem solve itself? """