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Six Degrees of Voting

An anonymous reader writes "Received a link to SixDegreesOfVoting.com that is a new take on the Registration drive concept. From the Manifesto: 'if we make sure everyone we know is voting, and they make sure everyone they know is voting, and so on, wouldn't everyone be voting?' Match it with a nice flash map showing linked signups, it looks pretty cool (albeit leaning solidly to the left right now)."

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  1. Since when... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it my business whether or not my friends vote.

    Like religion, it should be an individual decision and like religion, I find people who meddle in the affairs of others in these issues annoying.

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    "Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
    1. Re:Since when... by Yokaze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is the business of friends to meddle in the affairs of their friends. That's the difference between friends and acquaintances. Of course, they should know whether it is prudent in that particular matter or not. That is the difference between friends and "friends".

      In your case, it doesn't seem prudent. But that doesn't mean it is never prudent.

      However, let me point you out a little difference to religion.

      Contrary to religion is not about makeing you choose a certain party.

      Next, wether you like it or not, your life is affected by politics. There are not a lot people that don't care how their life is affected by it and have no particular opinion on anything. But most people say something along the line of: "Well, what I do/say doesn't matter anyway". They have given up.

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      "Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
    2. Re:Since when... by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow. You're 2 for 2.

      Religion, like voting, is a community descision. People who are members of your community (and not in the YMCA/United Way meaning. I mean the folk who are your real kith) have a duty to share their views with you, and you have an opinion to share your views with them. If you don't, then they're not kith.

      It is your busiess that your friends vote because if they don't vote, then the elected officials don't care about them and the government will not bend to assist them.

      It is your business what religion your friends are. Formal or informal, agreeing or disagreeing, knowing how a person relates to the divine is part of knowing a person. At the very least, you need to know if you can invite them to be your kid's godparent or trust them to keep the kid from being brainwashed by organized religion.

      Oh, and that "meddling" you're referring to--that's called DEMOCRACY.

    3. Re:Since when... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The Dems may win, for a reason that is not being captured in the polls.

      They're ALL gonna vote, because of the opposition to the Bushinista clique.

      Republicans, discouraged by their choices will stay home...

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      "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
      Never been known to fail..."
  2. One good point... by Thunderstruck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is somewhat counter-intuitive:

    When will we see a nationwide campaign encouraging people not to vote if they don't care? Or what about people who just don't have the time to do the homework? I know too many people who vote based purely on party or distant relationship than on merit.

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    Trying to use sarcasm in text-based forums does not work.
    1. Re:One good point... by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 3, Interesting
      When will we see a nationwide campaign encouraging people not to vote if they don't care? Or what about people who just don't have the time to do the homework?

      I like your ideas. The fewer voters there are, the more my vote counts :)
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      When will Windows be ready for the desktop?
  3. Re:Oh great... by mcmonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful
    People who need to be prodded to the polls with a sharp stick aren't going to be well-enough informed to cast their votes meaningfully.


    What does that mean? How informed is "well-enough informed to cast their votes meaningfully"?
    How is one vote more meaningful than another?


    The first thing we should be pushing for is for people to get out and vote. The second thing we should be pushing for is for arrogant snobs to STFU. I'll vote straight party line, I'll vote for cool sounding names. I'll vote for women I consider doable or people with an odd number of syllables in their name or whomever else I choice to vote for.


    How someone might vote should never be the litmus test on whether they can or should vote.

  4. Worse are some of those who do vote... by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People who cannot name their own Senators or Representatives...

    We harp on not having enough people voting but we ignore the bigger problem of having people vote who don't know the issues let alone the players.

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    * Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
  5. Don't Vote by Shihar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly, if you don't have the desire to vote, do everyone a favor and don't let your uneducated opinion be heard. More is not better. I would rather have one surgeon performing open heart surgery on me then 100 farms.

    People are under the deluded impression that Democracy is just. It isn't. It is just more likely to be just then other forms of government. However, it is perfectly within a democracies ability for 51% of the population to put the other 49% into slavery. The very reason why this nation has a bill of rights is because the founding fathers recognized that Democracy is less then perfect.

    Just because 51% of the people say something is right, does not make them right. It just means more people believe one thing over another. Pick your favorite philosopher or political figure. No matter how accepted that person might be right now, at one point they articulated an opinion which the vast majority disagreed with. That didn't make that person wrong, just in disagreement with the rest of the world.

    To be perfectly honest, I -don't- want more people to vote. I want less people to vote. As it is now, too many stupid people vote. Too many people vote based upon who has the prettier words, looks the best, or just fills them with a warmer feeling. I don't care if it is the stupid southern house wife you just doesn't trust any liberal because, well, no one in her family ever has since the civil war, or if it is a stupid stoner college student who really has no fucking opinion of his own, but is pretty sure everyone else hates Bush and so he should too. I don't want these people to vote. There input into the system isn't helpful. It is just noise. When they vote, I don't feel any sense of pride that two uneducated idiots made their decision based upon something that has absolutely nothing to do with reality.

    Voting is a mechanism to reach a consensus as to who should rule. When you rule, you have the authority to pass laws that will result in violence on the population. I don't care if you pass a law to stop gumball theft. You just authorized violence against your population. Laws don't work without the threat of someone taking either your property or you freedom and sending you to jail.

    So, when the decision is coming around as to who gets this power, take it fucking seriously. Don't tell idiots to add their input. If they don't want to vote, good, don't encourage them. The fewer idiots that vote, the more that my vote counts, and the more that non-idiots votes count.

    I propose a different solution. Tell your friends not to vote. If they are stupid enough to do as you say, then you are doing the world a favor by keeping them from voting.