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Detailed Review of the Archos AV420 PVR

ilovealpacas writes "The Globe and Mail has posted a step by step look at the Archos AV420. For about $1000 Canadian (I think that's $800 US), you get an 80GB portable video player and recorder that also plays MP3's and has a CF slot for pictures. Hmmm.....laptop?"

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  1. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but does it run linux?

  2. Laptop? by BeerCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aren't laptops cheaper than that, though?
    I mean, even an iBook works out less.

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  3. Overkill? by Benw5483 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This definitely brings up the question of what overkill is. I think I may enjoy something like this, but at the same time, how much would I really use it for anything other than audio and maybe a little video.

    For me it would probably end up as little more than an 80 GB mp3 player with a lot of extra hard drive storage space.

    Does anybody out there think this would be better than a laptop? The only place I can see using this for movies or pictures would be on vacation or business trips where a laptop would be more practical.

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  4. Read the durn book instead by lottameez · · Score: 3, Funny

    [curmudgeonly sneer] You bums need to read books instead of wasting yer money on these fancy schmantzy doo-dads. What? Too afraid to talk to the guy sitting next to you on the airplane?

    Why, when I was a youngster...cough cough KACCCCCHHH...phtt.


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  5. How's the construction? by signe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally, I will never buy another piece of equipment made by Archos. I had to take apart one of their Jukebox Recorders to try and get it to function at all. I discovered that the 4 circuit boards inside (which pretty much make up the entirety of the interior, and what the outer casing attaches to) are all held together with solder joints. As in they have attached the circuit boards to each other using solder. In addition, the battery contacts are on circuit boards at either end of the main boards. So when you put the batteries in, the pressure of the springs puts stress on the solder joints that hold the thing together.

    Needless to say, I was not able to revive this piece of crap.

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    1. Re:How's the construction? by DarkBlackFox · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why is it that comments negatively portraying a company are always modded up around here? There's two sides to every coin.

      I've had an Archos Jukebox Recorder 10 for well over 5 years now, and haven't had any problems with it. I still get +/- 5 hours of continuous play out of the original NiMH rechargable batteries that came with the unit. I've taken it apart a few times (mostly to use it as an external USB enclosure to try salvaging files from a dead laptop drives), and never had any problems with shoddy solder joints or breaking anything putting the batteries back in. It's been a very solid unit, and survived many falls and trips around town in my backpack, all with the original IBM travelstar hard drive.

      I'm tired of seeing all the "my thing broke so this company sucks" comments here, and felt like chipping in my positive experience with this particular product.

    2. Re:How's the construction? by rdewalt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Same here. I've got the same model (AJR-10) that I aquired from a friend when the drive died.

      Tore it apart, bought an off-the-shelf 40gb drive, did the magic hand wave incantation (i.e. formatted it FAT-32) dumped my MP3's to it, replaced the 1500mAh's with COTS 2300mAh's, and re-assembled. Cable went the way of all those Special Cables, so I grafted two USB-A Male ends together and made my own. Installed the RockBox rom, and BOOM replaced the standard archos rom with one that has the functionality I needed.

      For $125 in parts cost, and an hour's work. I got a 40gb mp3 player that does about 12 hours on a single charge. I pop the plastic battery plates, and I can swap in any regular AA size batteries. Doesn't hook to the USB port on my big FreeBSD machine. No big deal. five minutes with the screwdriver, and the drive is free again, I stick it right on the IDE chain. Who the hell would xfer gigs of data over USB, when you've got IDE.

      I've got four people who want me to make them one, all I need is the parts. Okay, so the construction is not Most Ideal. But I can fix a solder weild if it goes bad. Hell, Archos haven't gone forth and shut down the "How to mod your Archos" people, nor the 'open source rom' people. Isn't that something that slashdotters like?

    3. Re:How's the construction? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny
      I still get +/- 5 hours of continuous play out of the original NiMH rechargable batteries that came with the unit.

      Wow. It must really suck when you get -5 hours out of them, huh?

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  6. No DVD! by darth_MALL · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It couldn't have been that much of a stretch to add a DVD player could it? I'm sure all the other features are great, but when I think of mobile entertainment, DVD is 1st on the list. Ahh well I can't afford it anyway, so it's back to work.

    1. Re:No DVD! by samhart · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, these things are smaller than a DVD ;-)

      Besides, this is more in the uber-iPod arena than the portable DVD arena. I have a AV320 myself and I take it to the gym for MP3 listenning. I wouldnt want a full DVD player there ;-)

  7. AV320 by samhart · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have an AV320 that I got from some consulting I did a while back (because he couldn't pay me in cash, har har har) and I absolutely love mine.

    It's powered by embedded Linux (which I love) and it works like a dream. There have been many an airplane ride that was made easier because of my AV320 ;-)

    My biggest problem with mine (could not apply to this version) was that the screen wasn't well protected. A simple $8 camera carrying case and a pack of Palm screen protectors and this problem was solved.

  8. Hmmm.... by exhilaration · · Score: 3, Informative

    If one can get a 2.4 Ghz laptop for $889, then is this thing overpriced?

  9. Just some information about the model numbers... by Swift+Kick · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article description might be a little deceptive.
    The Archos AV420 is only 20GB and it retails for about $470 on Amazon.com.
    The AV480 is 80GB and is about $715 also from Amazon.com
    Check out more information on the devices on Archo's own page located here.

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  10. A word please by revery · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm.....laptop?

    Maybe you're not familiar with how this works. You submit the story, we make the jokes.

    You owe someone a +5 Funny.

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  11. Why??? by Skraut · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I guess if you have nothing else to do with your money, this may be something interesting, but it just doesn't seem to fit.

    I have an iRiver IHP-120 which I love, and have with me virtually everywhere, and beat the hell out of just by daily use. The cost of this Archos would make me leave it inside rather that drop it in my pocket and hop on the tractor (yes there are some of us rural type geeks :) I'd be too afraid to crack the screen, or otherwise break it.

    So you're left with a movie player. An $800 portable movie player. WHY? As others have said you can grab a decent laptop for less than that, or even a $200, 3 year old laptop off of ebay will do everything device does. Sure it's not as cute or pretty, but seriously...

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  12. 8+ lbs vs 10oz - you decide by Em+Ellel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you have to carry a notebook anyway with sufficient battery life, by all means - take that instead, but given a choice, i'd rather carry a 10oz device that works vs a 8 lbs device that runs microsoft.

    -Em

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  13. At least they made Sync'ing easy by aardwolf204 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lastly, the folks at Archos saw it fit to just let the AV420 be recognized as a hard drive. As in all other functions, files can be moved, renamed or deleted right on the device. Just plug it in via USB 2.0 and just drag and drop any files to your heart's content. If you prefer to synchronize your tunes, you can always use the included Musicmatch software.

    This is where they got it right, whether a PVR is in the stars for you or not everyone should adopt this practice (that means you apple!). There is nothing more upsetting than getting a device that only wants to talk to its software for importing files. My old iPaq PocketPC would annoy the hell out of me because I couldn't just plug it in to any USB port on any computer and get files to/from it. At least the iPod lets you get at the "other" files stored on the HDD without iTunes or other synch software.

    Or am I just crazy? Should we all just install Music Match and Real One so we can get files off our USB flashpenthumb drives with stickers on them?

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  14. Would you show Apple such disrespect? by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not a laptop any more than an iPod is a PDA.

    It's all about the UI. You turn it on and it plays movies. You don't log in or wait for stuff to boot, etc.

    Also, most laptops don't have 80 gig drives, and are quite frankly not designed to watch movies or listen to music. The speakers and displays suck for such tasks. I have a little portable DVD player, and it's 7 inch screen is easier to see from a distance or angle than my laptop's.

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  15. No, but the AV500 will. . . by Cyberllama · · Score: 4, Informative

    It will run Qtopia to be exact. . . They say it will be out before christmas and will have all PDA functions in addition to a hard drive and audio/video functions. It should be a nifty gadget if it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

  16. Plusses and minuses by jangobongo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Plusses:

    - Use it to time-shift your TV shows
    - Can edit out commercials
    - Can alter the screen ratio to normal, full, 4:3, or 16:9 (letterboxing)
    - Boots up in seconds (as opposed to laptops)
    - Shows recorded on the unit can be played on your PC (or is that a minus?)
    - Can import TV listings from Yahoo! for programming
    - Create playlists on the fly with s split screen and allows you to sort music files by artist, album, title, genre, year or playlist
    - Built in microphone for live recording in addition to in-line recording

    Minuses:

    - For the best video playback at 2,500 Kbps (near television quality), using about 2GB per hour of recording; so 20GB model holds about 10 hours (80 GB model holds about 40 hours)
    - Device will record files up to 2GB in size before closing that file and starting another
    - By default, external speakers stay on, even when you plug in the headphones (potentially embarassing and annoying)
    - Freezes on last image when fast-forwarding or rewinding so that you can't observe your progress
    - Can't program for repeat events (such as weekly episodes), each episode has to be programmed seperately
    - Gapless playback of songs is not supported
    - Navigation buttons are not backlit, making use in very low-light situations difficult
    - Records in WAV format only

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