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samzenpus
on from the super-soldier dept.
Trokair writes "China Daily reports that researcher Tuofu Zhu has discovered two women in an HIV Research program that are immune to the disorder via a mutant gene."
Try this one here. It's broken in two places, so if you want Gmail, you'll have to copy and paste, and remove the holes.
There is NO HIV...
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Anonymous Coward
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Period
It is a complete fabrication of the drug cartel
Re:this also linked to
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CmdrGoatse
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GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia Zeikfried - Associated Press, Nigeria
In a week which shall be recorded in Wikipedia infamy (and then vandalized
and redirected to clitoris), the oft persecuted and never defeated internet
missionaries of the Gay Nigger Association of
America struck yet another powerful and telling blow against the powerful
forces of bigotry and racism. Most notably, the growing zionist community on
renowned internet pissing yard wikipedia.org.
And the records have indeed tumbled, with an unheard of third successful
survival from the digital shitheap that is "Votes
For Deletion". Coming in spite a heinous act of self promotion and cyber
terrorism by Pat Gunn/Improv
(formerly known as Aharon Meshenstein prior to his infiltration of the United
States), who listed and inspired mob vandalism upon the GNAA's
entry.
Fresh from his promotion of Wikipedia's $50,000 fundraiser for arms and
supplies to the Jewish state of Israel, Improv launched a series of unprovoked
and slanderous attacks against the well loved organisations leadership, all the
while using foul and unholy necromancies to enlist the dead themselves to vote
the entries deletion. Names such as "Wolfman" and "Demonslave" only adding to
the damning list of evidence linking Mr Gunn to the occult.
Though Improv's actions gained him a small majority, a shock last minute
intervention from Pope John Paul II spared the pages untimely fate, although as
yet unconfirmed reports have indicated that several hundred 8-year old negro
children were driven to the Basilica to secure the pontiffs support. Others
point towards the black curse cast upon the deletion campaign by the support of
infamous Brawl Hall mouthpiece "Yoyo"
as the main driving force behind the salvation of the aforementioned entry.
But the details are likely to cause few sleepless nights among the group,
only one of whom was willing to speak to the press. Namely GNAA Wikipedia
contributor Popeye, who interrupted his drawing of pornography to give a brief
dismissal the controversy: "Even with Improv's shady dealings, the sheer size
and girth of a swollen GNAA phallus enables it both an identity and a vote of
it's own. Making such discussion moot".
About Wikipedia:
Wikipedia, a content-free encyclopedia in many languages, started life in
January 2001 and has already risen to the status of the internets premiere
"trollpedia".
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first
organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one
common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.
I'll believe you know the subject, if you can answer the following...
First, HIV is a retrovirus. It doesn't care about receptors. If you read the linked reference, you'll observe they carry spikes to burst through the membrane. Hence, your argument that the receptor is blocked would appear to not be worth a damn, since the virus doesn't need to attach to one.
I might conceed on the B-cell/T-cell argument, as that seems to be the prevaling theory. Maybe not quite just yet, though. Since B-cells and T-cells work together, and viruses aren't exactly endowed with vision, I want a credible argument as to why you believe that B-cells aren't affected. And, no, just because that's the popular belief is NOT a good enough answer. Microbiology is not a democracy. Viruses don't give a damn about consensus. On the other hand, virologists DO give a damn, because most of their money comes from the Government, which is notoriously stingy when it comes to the sciences.
As for the self-destruct, that bit is insanely obvious. Remember the law of conservation of matter? Retroviruses don't just vanish, if they fail in an attack on a given cell. They'll keep on attacking, until they successfully invade a cell or are destroyed by some process or other.
If the immune system of person X is NOT detecting the virus and is NOT attacking it, then whatever process is used to eliminate the virus cannot include the immune system. Duh.
The virus, if it cannot do anything at all, will simply exist in the body. It won't multiply, because it can't break in anywhere, but it won't die off - viruses are practically immortal. They are very stable molecule chains, for the most part.
Under those specific conditions, the only way you're going to reduce the number is if the virus attacks a cell, but the cell incapacitates the virus by incapacitating itself. There are simply no other mechanisms that'll do the job. You're quite welcome to argue that "that doesn't happen in practice", or "it doesn't work that way" as much as you like. What happens in any given case is not the point.
The point is, if you have some given number of viral strands - N, say - then N can go up (the virus has turned a cell into a replicating factory for the virus), it can stay the same (the virus and the body don't interact at all), or it can drop. There are no other possibilities.
In the case where someone isn't (apparently) dying off from HIV, then it's reasonable to assume N is not increasing.
If, in that same case, we can prove that the immune system isn't responding, then we can eliminate the largest contributor to N falling.
Now all we have to show is that N is not remaining the same. That's tougher. For this, I'm going to assume that virologists have done the obvious, which is to take blood and cell samples from where HIV should be present, and injected those into labratory animals that can be infected with HIV.
Assuming this to be the case, and assuming that N is remaining constant, then some percent of these animals should become HIV positive. If that was happening, we'd know in an instant that these people were not immune to the virus at all.
Researchers, though, are pretty clear on their argument that some resistance must exist. They didn't just pluck this idea out of thin air. Ergo, they've done the tests and have shown a statistically low probability of the virus merely cohabiting the body.
None of this is rocket science, and I really cannot comprehend why you're so freaked out over it. Unless you're in line for next year's Nobel prize, for discovering an AIDS vaccine, you need to learn how to argue in a less hostile way.
Immunodeficiency is not incomp
-- It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
MAD PROPS; MOD PARENT UP
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momerath2003
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Yeah, those fascist commie liberal hippy pansy libertarians...
-- I had but a simple dream, to destroy all humans.
Re:Genetics at work?
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quetzalc0atl
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there is an alternative explanation....
what we call "aids" is a breakdown of the immune system that is instigated by the use of recreational and prescription drugs. furthermore, the "lifestyle" of many gay people (lots of funny pills, staying up all night, not eating right, etc.) would seem to fit the bill in a way that explains the demographics since >90 % of people that have been diagnosed with AIDS are in fact gay. in addition, a significant percentage of folks diagnosed with AIDS test negative for the HIV virus.
many of the world's leading molecular biologists and biochemists support this view (several nobel laureates among them), but their voices have been drowned out by the pro-AIDS agenda which includes the governments of developing countries strapped for $.
for a list, look here: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/group.htm
Re:RTFA
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Anonymous Coward
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Ashke-Nazi Jews? So, what the heck is that?
Re:Immune
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Anonymous Coward
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Does that mean Africa is nigger-free in five decades or is the overpopulation only replaced with resistant niggers shortly thereafter? Black people shouldn't be allowed to destroy Africa further, they have proven over thousands of years that negroes are unable to maintain societies, countries or any form of culture higher than a primitive tribal or shamanish level. Negroes are in fact unable to learn from mistakes, respect fellow humans, resist immediate urges and use given resources wisely. The white humans are only marginally better, I admit, but at least have been able to maintain steady societies, made significant technological and ethic progress and is the only population on this Earth that may be able to reach into space, leaving the limits for all biological life to date and survive even the greatest of disasters.
Blacks need solid education or instant euthanasia, but we as a responsible people cannot let them live for themselves. I'm not cruel, I prefer education, that may be more beneficial and even cheaper for the whole world in the long run. But the way it is too today we cannot sit there and do nothing, we need to act immediately. They wreak too much havoc and destroy too many resources when left alone.
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Try this one here. It's broken in two places, so if you want Gmail, you'll have to copy and paste, and remove the holes.
Period
It is a complete fabrication of the drug cartel
GNAA declares victory over Wikipedia
Zeikfried - Associated Press, Nigeria
In a week which shall be recorded in Wikipedia infamy (and then vandalized and redirected to clitoris), the oft persecuted and never defeated internet missionaries of the Gay Nigger Association of America struck yet another powerful and telling blow against the powerful forces of bigotry and racism. Most notably, the growing zionist community on renowned internet pissing yard wikipedia.org.
And the records have indeed tumbled, with an unheard of third successful survival from the digital shitheap that is "Votes For Deletion". Coming in spite a heinous act of self promotion and cyber terrorism by Pat Gunn/Improv (formerly known as Aharon Meshenstein prior to his infiltration of the United States), who listed and inspired mob vandalism upon the GNAA's entry.
Fresh from his promotion of Wikipedia's $50,000 fundraiser for arms and supplies to the Jewish state of Israel, Improv launched a series of unprovoked and slanderous attacks against the well loved organisations leadership, all the while using foul and unholy necromancies to enlist the dead themselves to vote the entries deletion. Names such as "Wolfman" and "Demonslave" only adding to the damning list of evidence linking Mr Gunn to the occult.
Though Improv's actions gained him a small majority, a shock last minute intervention from Pope John Paul II spared the pages untimely fate, although as yet unconfirmed reports have indicated that several hundred 8-year old negro children were driven to the Basilica to secure the pontiffs support. Others point towards the black curse cast upon the deletion campaign by the support of infamous Brawl Hall mouthpiece "Yoyo" as the main driving force behind the salvation of the aforementioned entry.
But the details are likely to cause few sleepless nights among the group, only one of whom was willing to speak to the press. Namely GNAA Wikipedia contributor Popeye, who interrupted his drawing of pornography to give a brief dismissal the controversy: "Even with Improv's shady dealings, the sheer size and girth of a swollen GNAA phallus enables it both an identity and a vote of it's own. Making such discussion moot".
About Wikipedia:
Wikipedia, a content-free encyclopedia in many languages, started life in January 2001 and has already risen to the status of the internets premiere "trollpedia".
Currently Wikipedia contains 363950 articles, 10032 of which are genuine, and 343 of them factually accurate. Leaving Wikipedia on an academic par with "Star Wars: Incredible Cross-sections: The Ultimate Guide to Star Wars Vehicles and Spacecraft" and "My First Book of Animals from A to Z".
About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.
Are you GAY ?
Are you a NIGGER ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER ?
If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATI
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The sound of sloppy and dirty penises getting inserted into brown and stained anuses can be heard in every alley and filthy bar.
The double-blind test involved one group getting banged in the ass.
First, HIV is a retrovirus. It doesn't care about receptors. If you read the linked reference, you'll observe they carry spikes to burst through the membrane. Hence, your argument that the receptor is blocked would appear to not be worth a damn, since the virus doesn't need to attach to one.
I might conceed on the B-cell/T-cell argument, as that seems to be the prevaling theory. Maybe not quite just yet, though. Since B-cells and T-cells work together, and viruses aren't exactly endowed with vision, I want a credible argument as to why you believe that B-cells aren't affected. And, no, just because that's the popular belief is NOT a good enough answer. Microbiology is not a democracy. Viruses don't give a damn about consensus. On the other hand, virologists DO give a damn, because most of their money comes from the Government, which is notoriously stingy when it comes to the sciences.
As for the self-destruct, that bit is insanely obvious. Remember the law of conservation of matter? Retroviruses don't just vanish, if they fail in an attack on a given cell. They'll keep on attacking, until they successfully invade a cell or are destroyed by some process or other.
If the immune system of person X is NOT detecting the virus and is NOT attacking it, then whatever process is used to eliminate the virus cannot include the immune system. Duh.
The virus, if it cannot do anything at all, will simply exist in the body. It won't multiply, because it can't break in anywhere, but it won't die off - viruses are practically immortal. They are very stable molecule chains, for the most part.
Under those specific conditions, the only way you're going to reduce the number is if the virus attacks a cell, but the cell incapacitates the virus by incapacitating itself. There are simply no other mechanisms that'll do the job. You're quite welcome to argue that "that doesn't happen in practice", or "it doesn't work that way" as much as you like. What happens in any given case is not the point.
The point is, if you have some given number of viral strands - N, say - then N can go up (the virus has turned a cell into a replicating factory for the virus), it can stay the same (the virus and the body don't interact at all), or it can drop. There are no other possibilities.
In the case where someone isn't (apparently) dying off from HIV, then it's reasonable to assume N is not increasing.
If, in that same case, we can prove that the immune system isn't responding, then we can eliminate the largest contributor to N falling.
Now all we have to show is that N is not remaining the same. That's tougher. For this, I'm going to assume that virologists have done the obvious, which is to take blood and cell samples from where HIV should be present, and injected those into labratory animals that can be infected with HIV.
Assuming this to be the case, and assuming that N is remaining constant, then some percent of these animals should become HIV positive. If that was happening, we'd know in an instant that these people were not immune to the virus at all.
Researchers, though, are pretty clear on their argument that some resistance must exist. They didn't just pluck this idea out of thin air. Ergo, they've done the tests and have shown a statistically low probability of the virus merely cohabiting the body.
None of this is rocket science, and I really cannot comprehend why you're so freaked out over it. Unless you're in line for next year's Nobel prize, for discovering an AIDS vaccine, you need to learn how to argue in a less hostile way.
Immunodeficiency is not incomp
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Yeah, those fascist commie liberal hippy pansy libertarians...
I had but a simple dream, to destroy all humans.
there is an alternative explanation....
what we call "aids" is a breakdown of the immune system that is instigated by the use of recreational and prescription drugs. furthermore, the "lifestyle" of many gay people (lots of funny pills, staying up all night, not eating right, etc.) would seem to fit the bill in a way that explains the demographics since >90 % of people that have been diagnosed with AIDS are in fact gay. in addition, a significant percentage of folks diagnosed with AIDS test negative for the HIV virus.
many of the world's leading molecular biologists and biochemists support this view (several nobel laureates among them), but their voices have been drowned out by the pro-AIDS agenda which includes the governments of developing countries strapped for $.
for a list, look here: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/group.htm
Ashke-Nazi Jews? So, what the heck is that?
Does that mean Africa is nigger-free in five decades or is the overpopulation only replaced with resistant niggers shortly thereafter? Black people shouldn't be allowed to destroy Africa further, they have proven over thousands of years that negroes are unable to maintain societies, countries or any form of culture higher than a primitive tribal or shamanish level. Negroes are in fact unable to learn from mistakes, respect fellow humans, resist immediate urges and use given resources wisely. The white humans are only marginally better, I admit, but at least have been able to maintain steady societies, made significant technological and ethic progress and is the only population on this Earth that may be able to reach into space, leaving the limits for all biological life to date and survive even the greatest of disasters.
Blacks need solid education or instant euthanasia, but we as a responsible people cannot let them live for themselves. I'm not cruel, I prefer education, that may be more beneficial and even cheaper for the whole world in the long run. But the way it is too today we cannot sit there and do nothing, we need to act immediately. They wreak too much havoc and destroy too many resources when left alone.