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Last Pre-Election Jobs Report Released

September's jobs report notes a gain of 96,000 jobs, and a downward revision for August from 144,000 to 128,000. The unemployment rate held steady at 5.4% (about even to Nixon's and Clinton's when they were reelected), while another 236,000 jobs were added in a periodic revision to the total, leaving Bush at a deficit of 585,000 jobs from where he started. If he averages 150,000 jobs for the last four months of his term, he will net positive job growth. The effects of the recent hurricanes were not possible to determine at this point, the report said. This will surely be featured prominently in tonight's second Presidential debate (starting at 9 p.m. Eastern).

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  1. Don't Worry... by cyranoVR · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...all those unemployed folks are making up for it by selling beanie babies on eBay! Problem solved.

    /hey, Cheney said it, not me

  2. Before all you people start bashing Bush by Your_Mom · · Score: 4, Informative

    Economists have predicted the economy will continue to get better despite who is elected.

    The entire economy problem can be traced back to the Dot-Coms. There is no 'quick fix' after a bubble bursts. If you don't have an economics degree, don't start spouting crap.

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    1. Re:Before all you people start bashing Bush by N3WBI3 · · Score: 3, Informative
      screw you buddy - this administration has had 4 years to fix whatever the problem was - and since they couldnt do that in 4 years, we should give them another chance?

      Look Im not voting for Bush but I think he has done a decent job with the economy, the bubble burst during the Clinton administration, and then we had 9/11 but if you look at

      http://www.dallasfed.org/data/data/us-charts.pdf

      It been pretty clear that with the exception of trade the economy has been gorwing at a steady rate. GDP has grown at a bit more than 3% a year for his term.

      On the whole unemployment thing what is left to fix, its at the same place it was in 1996 under the all wise Bill Clinton.. Heck he has done even better, in 1996 September Unemployment was 6.7%, in september 2004 it is at 5.4! (http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/lfhist/cal$hlf.txt)

      But hey why runi a good bush bashing with facts right?

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  3. Nope by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "If he averages 150,000 jobs for the last four months of his term, he will net positive job growth."

    Uh, no. Since you need about 150,000 jobs added each month just to keep up with a growing population, if he averages 150,000 jobs for the last four months of his term he will merely tread water. At this point, there is absolutely no chance that Bush can avoid being the first president since Hoover in the Great Depression to have had fewer jobs at the end of his term than when he began. With a growing population, that ain't easy to do. Just keep up with the population growth and you will wind up with more jobs at the end of four years. Which is why through recession after recession over the last seventy years no other president has managed to pull off such a shoddy record on job growth.

    Naturally whatever the number is, it gets trumpeted by the incumbent. "96,000 new jobs were added last month! That shows my economic policies are working!" Garbage. It shows that the job market is going backward, not even keeping up with equilibrium.

  4. Why are jobs a Presidential issue? by RealProgrammer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know, realistically they just are. People expect the President to "handle the economy".

    But it's stupid. The President has no control over the unemployment rate. All he can do is ask Congress to lower taxes or let them raise taxes. Maybe he can give a speech.

    The rest is cyclical. From where I'm sitting the economy is doing fine, even though the government still takes too much money out of it.

    If I lost my job, I wouldn't blame the President, I'd blame the bum in the mirror.

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  5. Re:on the morning news radio broadcast... by Edax+Rarem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No they didn't...
    From the D.C. Post
    "Many economists thought that the onslaught of successive hurricanes over the past month might seriously skew the results for September, but the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics, which issues the jobs reports, found otherwise.

    "At the national level," the BLS said, "the severe weather appears to have held down employment growth, but not enough to change materially the Bureau's assessment of the employment situation in September." "

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  6. Re:What motivates people by b-baggins · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't count on it. The truly motivated people are already working.

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  7. Re:Why are jobs a Presidential issue? by Matrix272 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If I lost my job I'd blame the president. Who's fault is it that the barrel shot up to 52$?

    The Chinese. They're buying more of it than ever before.

    Petrol prices aside, he's also lowering taxes the wrong way.

    It makes a lot more sense if you look at it as percentages of income, not as raw dollars. For instance, if I make $200,000 a year and get a $2000 tax rebate, that's only 1%. If you make $5,000 and get a $200 tax rebate, that's 4%. Suddenly it doesn't look like the rich are getting all the money back, does it?

    Of course, some real numbers are worth taking a look at. Bush only cut the Federal Income tax, which is the only part we're concerning ourselves for the purposes of this discussion. Did you know that the top 1% of the country makes 17.53% of the money in the country, but pays 33.89% of the Federal Income tax? (Note: To be in the top 1%, you must make more than $293,000 or so.) The top 50% of the country makes 86.19% of the money, but pays 96.03% of the Federal Income taxes. What are the bottom 50% of the population doing, if they're not reporting their income and paying tax on it?

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  8. Re:question for anti-Bush people by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 4, Informative

    The basic theory of how Bush is ruining the economy is that the budget deficits & the growing international disdain for America (generated by the President) are deflating the economy by discouraging international investment in America. You might not think that international investment is very important to the American economy, but you just have to consider the trade deficit to know that it is. Afer all, by definition the trade deficit means that there is net a outflow of money in the form of direct commerce. If the trade deficit alone defined the financial landscape, America would spend itself into oblivion.

    Fortunatly, that is not the case, foreign investment in the United States takes many forms (not just the purchase of American hard assets, but also of American securities, and currency), and often more than offsets the trade imbalance. One of the better theories on the 90's boom was that a weak international economy (compared to the US) + international respect for the only remaining Superpower + Clinton's fiscal responsibility all mixed together to create a bonanza of investment (so much, that we ended up with a crisis of bad investments, but that's another story).

    That this flow of foreign money has been greatly reduced is, no doubt related to 9/11, but many would argue that the reduction is because of how we reacted, not because of the event itself. Our response was the beginning of an internatational disillusionment that continues to this day. The high rate of exchange between the Euro and the Dollar is a quick way to see the effect. The exchange is where it's at because of the balance of people who would rather hold their investments in the Euro vs people who want to hold their investments in dollars. There's even some evidence that Bush is actually directly pushing for this imbalance because he mistakenly believes that manufacturing is the core of the economy and is trying to boost that sector. To many, it would just be another example of how he's out of touch with reality. Anyway, I'm Am Not An Economist, but I am a Democrat, so take my analysis with the usual grain of salt.