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Carbon Nanotubes Harder Than Diamond

purduephotog writes "CDAC has announced the formation of a new form of hexagonal packed carbon similiar to diamond. Carbon nanotubes are compressed at 75 GPa and quenched. The new material is conclusively different via Raman Spectroscopy and both cracked and indented the diamond anvil used in its creation. CDAC is also known to have created via CVD the hardest diamond to date."

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  1. Possible uses? by francisew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This might be good for new machining tools?

    I wonder what the optical properties are, and what the maximum size of these is?

    1. Re: Possible uses? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 2, Interesting
      A thin, super-hard diamond layer? Put some on my razor blades please, so I don't need to throw them away after using them only a couple of times.

      Look elsewhere - no sig to be found here.

    2. Re: Possible uses? by theguru · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have a package of razor blades cryo treated... they'll last a really long time. A friend had a crankshaft cryo treated, and the owner of the company apparently puts disposable razor blades in with small batches and gives them out to friends, and sends them to service men overseas.

    3. Re: Possible uses? by Izago909 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It cost me $15 for a pack of replacement razor blades. It cost me $30 to have them cryogenically treated. I've been using my current set for about 2 months now. The other ones got about 3-4 months of use before I threw them out. At this rate I've got about a 2 year supply left. There's a reason razor companies use the softest steel possible and charge between $5-8 dollars for a pack of 4 blades. It's also the same reason it can often be cheaper to buy a new printer instead of replacement cartridges.

      Cryogenic treating is nothing new. Top automotive racers have been freezing engine parts for over a decade now. Aeronautical companies have been doing it for longer. Did you just spend a lot of money on a special silk piece of clothing for your girl? Have it treated too. You'd be surprised how long silk will last, or how much stronger it will be after treatment. Tired of sharpening lawn mower blades? Did you buy your kid some expensive plastic toy you know he/she will destroy within a week? Damn near everything can be treated. Metals, fibers, and plastics (and other polymer compounds) are incredibly resilient afterwards.

    4. Re: Possible uses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What a good idea; I'm very skeptical about the application to e.g. fabrics (don't see how it could help, and if you're not careful it can do a lot of damage), but am quite interested in applying it to plastics/metals.

      Is there a FAQ about this, either service providers or an HOWTO assuming you have some LN2 and no knowledge of metallurgy? From what I researched, it uses temps around -320'F; that this is approximately LN2's boiling point cannot be a coincidence.

    5. Re:Possible uses? by Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I want to know its tensile strength, so I can determine whether it'd be suitable for an economical space elevator. Impressive bulk modulus, at the very least!

      Still, 75 GPa being required to form the material is pretty high. Anyone know what type of SWNTs they used? Most, from the studies that I've seen, shouldn't need that kind of pressure. I came up with a general design previously for a press that could produce a high tensile strength fiber from CNTs, but I doubt it could handle 75 GPa.

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  2. Re:Is it really that hard by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it really hard to speak out Random Access Memory?
    Or Central Processing Unit?

    Its CVD. Like CAD or CNC.
    Acronyms stop being acronyms if the majority of peoply using them dont even know the original meaning without thinking a moment.

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  3. Acronyms... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    CVD isn't an acronym, it's an initialism. Acronyms must be pronounceable as words. NATO, RAM...

    Acronyms don't degrade the language, they enhance it. They become words. Initialisms degrade it.

    On the other hand, it's definitional that overuse of acronyms degrades language.... that's the only meaning overuse could have for acronyms. The question is whether many people actually do overuse acronyms. I doubt it. It's mainly an initialism/acronym stew that causes trouble.

  4. Space Elevator, here we come! by ave19 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These are the types of advances we need to make the space elevator a reality. Either using nanotubes like this in a matrix, or more mind-boggingly, create wires of them.

    Going up!

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  5. the harder they come by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now we have drills to carve parts from synthetic diamonds. Very tiny drills, for very tiny machined parts. This nanotech is starting to get good.

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  6. cheap space launches by WillWare · · Score: 4, Interesting
    One person commented that this may help advance the Space Elevator, and that may be true, but it's an even bigger help for the space railway because the material is good under compression (the SE needs something good under tension). The space elevator subjects its payload to about a week of heavy radiation, so it's not practical for passengers. There are still lots of non-alive things we want to put in space cheaply, and for those it's great.

    For humans, J. Storrs-Hall (of sci.nanotech fame) proposed a space railway that could be built sooner and more cheaply than a space elevator. It's a linear induction motor laid along a 300km-long track, 100km above the ground, where the atmosphere is thin enough to take a few orbits to decay your orbit. You drive your spaceship up a ramp to one end, and the motor accelerates you along the railway at about 10G for about 90 seconds, putting you in a slightly elliptical orbit with an apogee on the other side of the Earth. When you hit apogee, you do a burn to get into a higher orbit.

    Relatively little radiation because you cross the Van Allen belts much faster. You get to LEO without burning any of your own fuel, which is a big energy win. The railway is low enough that orbits still decay slowly, so there's no space junk to worry about at that altitude.

    The structure is a collection of A-frames, built like a radio tower. Like the space elevator, only a tiny fraction of the height is subjected to significant weather. The structure is under compression, not tension, which widens the choice of materials. According to Storrs-Hall, existing synthetic diamond would be suitable.

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  7. Re:Is it really that hard by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thats why you should define it once they use the acronym from then on out.

    for example:
    Oh my god(OMG) it's 6:30pm on a friday. Why am I still here. OMG my boss just gave me more stuff to do.

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  8. Re:But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Carborundum is not as hard as diamond on the Mohs scale, SiC comes in at about 9.3, a little harder than corundum (aluminium oxide)

    Boron nitride is damn near as hard as diamond, somewhere at about 9.8. Theoretically carbon nitride, C3N4 should be harder than diamond but getting sp3 bonding going in the structure is very tricky. I think very small amounts have been made. If the theory is correct then carbon nitride would be about 12 on the Mohs scale.

  9. Re:But the real question is... by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So wait, you have a large bit of material placing pressure on a smaller piece of harder material, ad infinitum...

    Won't that just leave you with a series of bisected samples, each harder than the last?


    No, due to the cell geometry. The face contacting the softer material is large, and the face contacting the harder material is smaller. As force is constant (not pressure), you end up with less pressure on the weaker face, and more (though hopefully less than your intermediate material's inelastic deformation pressure) on the harder face.

    This lets you apply huge pressures to a very small sample, between two diamond faces. My understanding is that they handle the edges by using a metal gasket, which is allowed to deform inelastically to transfer force to a side housing with more surface area (think "o-ring seal").

    Diamond anvil cells were big news when they came out because they were so _small_. You could hold them in-hand or put them on a lab bench and apply pressure by turning screws, whereas past high-pressure machines had been huge monstrosities. And with the diamond anvils as windows, you can even to spectrographic measurements of samples as they're being compressed (though the diamond's absorption bands interfere, and the faces can warp under very high pressure). Very nifty gadgets.