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Slackware Likely To Drop GNOME Support

An anonymous reader writes "After Hewlett Packard, who jumped off of supporting GNOME, Red Hat has followed by splitting their Desktop Linux out to Fedora which is community driven, and now distributions like Slackware have started to drop GNOME entirely in favor of KDE. Read more about their decision here. It looks like companies as well as distributions start focusing towards one solution." Patrick Volderking's quoted message doesn't announce a final decision to drop GNOME from Slackware, however -- and as the followups in that thread note, it could be interpreted as an endorsement of the good job done by Dropline in packaging GNOME for Slack.

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  1. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    FP MUTHA FUCKAS!

  2. FIRSTIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    YES SIR; YES INDEED WOW OGM! This is indeed the very very very first post ever on any site on he intarnat webwork!11 ogm ogm. yes.

  3. packagin by Coneasfast · · Score: 0, Troll

    Right now, I think
    removing it would be the best thing for Slackware as it's become a maintainance nightmare (unlike nearly every other ./configure'ed source, GNOME doesn't build into packages easily with DESTDIR).


    now even i thought slackware's packaging system was sufficient (despite what others say), but if you are building and packaging by relying on DESTDIR, you really do need a change in the packaging system.

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  4. A cluecheck for the zealots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    1. GNOME is the main distribution for corporate desktops. KDE is nowhere -- Novell are basically just gladhanding KDE zealots to prevent them from going off on one of their infamous jihads against SuSE. IBM's forthcoming desktop is GNOME-based. Sun is GNOME-based. KDE is... what?

    2. No-one, and I mean *NO-ONE* who matters gives a flying fuck what Slackware does. Slackware might have had a user base 5 years ago, but these days... nothing. Slackware is in a similar position as the other minor and virtually irrelevant Linux distributions -- the difference is that at least some of those distros are minor because they try something radical. Slackware is just old and busted.

    3. This is yet another slashdot GNOME-bashing story. It's tiresome. Go and bore someone else, zealots.

    1. Re:A cluecheck for the zealots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I think you're forgetting the most important factor, which overrides all those you mentioned - GNOME sucks.

    2. Re:A cluecheck for the zealots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      1 - who says that Novell will use Gnome as the default desktop?

      Ermmm... Novell. They have made vague statements about continuing to support KDE for consumers, but their business systems are *ALL* GNOME-based.

      IBM is sponsoring KDE, so who knows they will use KDE in the end.

      No, IBM are trying hard not to alienate anyone, including KDE. I can assure you that their forthcoming desktop will not feature Qt in any central role (althought it will likely be installed)... effectively ruling out KDE.

      SUN's corporate desktop... since when did SUN have a significant share in the desktop market?

      Sun sold half million GNOME desktops (in the form of JDS) to the Chinese -- with 200 million more lined up. It's also sold half a million to the NHS in Britain... as well as a number of other large contracts. You really should try to keep up with the news, dear boy. Sun has more commercial GNOME deployments than KDE can ever dream of.

      2 - on what do you base that Slackware has no user base?

      I didn't say it has no user base. I said no-one who matters uses it. Which is true. Slackware is utterly irrelevant in the larger Linux world of 2004.

      3 - it's not a bashing story, just a report about a mail in the dropline forum.

      No, it's a bashing story. Have you actually *read* it, and noted the wording?

  5. YOU FUCKING FAIL IT! by YOU+FUCKING+FAIL+IT! · · Score: -1, Troll

    I WISH ALL FAILURES LIKE YOU WOULD BE WIPED FROM THE EARTH! Important Stuff # Please try to keep posts on topic. # Try to reply to other people's comments instead of starting new threads. # Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. # Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. # Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page) Important Stuff # Please try to keep posts on topic. # Try to reply to other people's comments instead of starting new threads. # Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. # Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. # Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page)

  6. YOU FUCKING FAIL IT! by YOU+FUCKING+FAIL+IT! · · Score: -1, Troll

    I WISH ALL THE FAILURES WOULD GO TO HELL!

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  7. Re:I hate KDE by Misinformed · · Score: -1, Troll

    Don't be jealous because you have a small penis. You were born that way, look for something positive to take your frustrations out on... perhaps you could join the police or study a CompSci degree?

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  8. The only problem is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It will still be extremely bloated.

    Long live GTK/XFce/Flux/IceWM!

  9. Re:About freakin' time by imr · · Score: -1, Troll

    I think it was the joke.
    Funny to see that YOU got the funny points and HE got informative points.

  10. actually by iamnotacrook · · Score: 0, Troll

    slackware comes with multiuser support and has done so for some time. i have several accounts on my slackware pc.

  11. OMG ITS TEH OPEN SOURCE!!!!!11one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You post is just a trivial re-wording of the old "well, you have the source code..." troll. Get some new lines.

    BTW, I *have* heard of XMLUI, I just don't think it's relevant. Sure, there is a way to fix some of KDE's problems, but I don't want to have to hack up the xml files for every app any more than I want to maintain my own set of widget-removing patches just to get a usable interface.

  12. Re:About freakin' time by mark-t · · Score: 0, Troll
    I don't like KDE because of its ties to QT, and I do not like Trolltech's licensing policy on QT. I appreciate that it is Trolltech's software and they have the right to license it however they want, but I have the right to choose to dislike it and to refuse to patronise it

    I'll probably just go back to using fvwm if I ever do another from-scratch reinstall.

  13. Re:Unmasked! by Deusy · · Score: 1, Troll

    "I can see why people are unhappy - Gnome is constantly changing:
    They had balsa and gmc, they changed to evolution and nautilus. Abiword was dropped for openoffice.
    Even the configuration changes all the time...
    This is a pain if you are a distro that tries to actually support it."


    Whilst there are many valid complaints you could have about Gnome, these are complete rubbish.

    Balsa and GMC were never part of Gnome. They were, and still are, simply Gtk apps that run well in Gnome. As is AbiWord, which was also never a part of the official Gnome tree, and did not stop developing simply because OpenOffice.org came along.

    Get your facts straight. An application being Gtk does not make it part of Gnome. And a competitor application does not deprecate or prevent development of the application it competes against. All the applications you mentioned are in active development and, if anything, the competition has inspired the development teams to work harder and produce better applications.

    "They have to get it together and stop this "let's start over","let's start over again" nonsense, *soon*."

    You're 3 years too late. They already did start over, just the once. And Gnome 2.8 is a damn sight better than Gnome 1.4 - and you're dillusional if you think otherwise. They started over to address some issues in the Gnome1/Gtk1 codebase that simply could not have been resolved by evolving it.

    Yes, mistakes were made along the way, people are imperfect and that happens. But the end result is a fluid, intuitive, and (getting) fast desktop that facilitates working with your computer whether you are a novice or an expert. I regard that as somewhat of an achievement. And given the technologies to come, Gnome 2.10 is looking very juicy indeed.

    Of course, if you don't like things, go to project GoneME. The fact that they probably won't ever have a release is a testament to the fact that the majority of Gnome users are incredibly satisfied with Gnome2 of late.

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  14. Re:I hate KDE by Tore+S+B · · Score: 0, Troll

    That's compariSON, not comparism. Just a minor nitpick.

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