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Supreme Court Rejects RIAA Appeal

An anonymous reader submits "Recall that the RIAA originally used to directly send DMCA-laced supoenas to ISPs to obtain information about a P2P user. Then recall how Verizon and other providers balked saying the RIAA had to file John Doe suits first. It ultimately reached SCOTUS, with the RIAA appealing a decision that was in Verizon's favor. SCOTUS has declined to hear the case, effectively casting the Verizon opinion in stone. Wahoo! Part of DMCA shot down!"

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  1. SCOTUS being... by embeejay · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Supreme Court of USA for those of you who (like me) didn't have a clue at first.

  2. Re:Next stop: Thousands of lawsuits against John D by retto · · Score: 5, Informative

    this isn't that major of a victory for P2P fans

    However it is a major victory for due process. No corporation should be allowed to issue their own 'supoenas' to force a third-party to turn over personal information without proper judicial oversight. That part of the DMCA was WAY over the line.

  3. Re:Next stop: Thousands of lawsuits against John D by feloneous+cat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nor does it make trading music files online "stealing" no matter how much they want the world to believe that it is.

    No, that is not what this sez. Not even vaguely. It is about whether you can go on a fishing expedition to find someone who MIGHT be stealing vs. KNOWING that someone is stealing. Altogether different.

    But, hey, what do I know. IANAL.

    --
    IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV
  4. An explanation of the SCOTUS rulings by shaneFalco · · Score: 5, Informative
    Unless I'm mistaken, status quo remains and this can continue to be repeatedly brought up until the issue finally does get ruled on by the court. Correct?

    Not nessasarily. Usually once the Court refuses to hear something the lower courts will honor that position as law. This is what is called a Stare Decisis ruling. Now this ruling is now only pertinent to the district court in which it occured. Other juristicions will usually look to a juristiction that has already ruled on a similar case before issuing its ruling. (The fact the Court has stare decisised this one is gonna do wonders to advance this on other juristictions as well.

    The RIAA could theoretically file again in another juristiction, but may be denied by the Court on grounds that there is a SCOTUS ruling in place on the matter (stare decisis does not carry the same weight as a Court ruling). For examples sake, the Pro-life crowd is reluctant to challenge Roe v. Wade until the Court is firmly in conservative hands. If you have a case before the SCOTUS you usually can not be heard again for decades (seperate but equal 1890's; brown v. board 1954... long ass time). So in short.... the RIAA is effectively REAMED.

    I always knew mixing political science and computers could be fun :)

  5. Re:Whew, for awhile there by ptbarnett · · Score: 5, Informative
    Thankfully, the Supreme Court is at least knocking down the RIAA.

    No, they didn't.

    The Court simply declined to grant cert to the case and consider it. They have said multiple times that their refusal does not convey anything about the merits of the case:

    STATE OF MD. v. BALTIMORE RADIO SHOW , 338 U.S. 912 (1950)

    "Inasmuch, therefore, as all that a denial of a petition for a writ of certiorari means is that fewer than four members of the Court thought it should be granted, this Court has rigorously insisted that such a denial carries with it no implication whatever regarding the Court's views on the merits of a case which it has declined to review. The Court has said this again and again; again and again the admonition has to be repeated."

    Unless enough justices have a personal interest in the case, the Supreme Court rarely considers a case except to resolve conflicting decisions among the US Courts of Appeals.

    We need a way to moderate original postings "uninformed".

  6. Try these bills first by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Re:can someone explain..... by kilgortrout · · Score: 5, Informative

    The police can get an arrest warrant based on dna evidence. However, they can't compel a suspect to give sample dna without a warrant issued by a judge based on showing of probable cause.