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IBM Launches New Product Line

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the and-its-only-125-pounds dept.

An anonymous reader notes that "IBM has launched its new product line of storage devices: the DS6000 and the DS8000. The results are quite impressive, with the DS6000 being rack mountable, 3U, and ONLY 125 pound storage device that will hold up to 67.2 TB! The DS8000 is equally impressive, with 6x performance of ESS 800 (Shark), making it the most powerful storage system to date. "

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  1. To inform by a.different.perspect · · Score: 4, Informative

    More articles, for the more article inclined.

  2. Actually it's 4.8TB for a single rack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's 67.2 TB if you have 14 racks (224 disks)...a single rack only allows 300Gb x 16drives = 4.8 TB...quite still a lot though.

  3. Writeup is wrong by amorsen · · Score: 5, Informative

    The DS6000 supports up to to 67.2TB, but not in one enclosure. The DS6000 only fits 16 disks per enclosure, and with 400GB disks that is 6.4TB. 400GB disks seem to only be available as SATA and PATA, the largest SCSI disks I could find are 300GB. That means 4.8TB per enclosure. 16 DS6000's per 48U rack, that's 76.8TB. Remove every 8th disk for RAID-5, that's 67.2TB.

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    1. Re:Writeup is wrong by keesh · · Score: 4, Informative

      IBM's standard is 6+P+S (six normal, one parity, one spare). Since the monitoring setup is damned good, and the CEs are really fast in replacing drives, it seems to work. The only reason raid 6 exists at all is because EMC accidentally shipped a bunch of duff drives once.

  4. not 67Tb in 3U by swmike · · Score: 3, Informative

    It'll grow by the modular 3U unit.

    The single 3U unit won't hold 67.2Tb, that's a bunch of them linked together.

  5. That's not 67TB in a single enclosure.. by jcr · · Score: 3, Informative

    You misread the spec, I believe. There's 16 drive bays, and the biggest single drive I'm aware of at the moment is 400 gig.

    What they said was: "Using modular, 3U, 16 disk drive, rack-mountable enclosures, the DS6000 series can grow along with your storage needs up to 67.2TB physical storage".

    According to the datasheet, they offer drives up to 300gig in each bay, which works out to around 4.8 Tb per enclosure.

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  6. Product pricing and availability by just+someone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Product pricing and availability
    IBM's new storage offerings with enterprise class functions reset the bar with minimum configurations starting at half a terabyte and list prices starting as low as $97,000. The DS6000 series and the DS8000 series come standard with a four-year warranty on hardware and software, which is unique in the industry.

    What are they smoking? 9.7 k a terrabyte, maybe. 97k. Even EMC is not that high any more.

    1. Re:Product pricing and availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, these prices are ridiculous.
      You can get 5.6 TB for $10k in true 3U using VTrak 15100 from Promise.
      That's $4k for VTrak plus 15 x $400 for 400GB drives.

  7. Re:i hope these restore ibm's name by PygmySurfer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hitachi took over IBM's Desktop hard drive business.

    And I believe IBM actually had 2 lines that had issues (The 75 GXP and, to a lesser extent, the 60 GXP).

    I had 2 30 GB 75 GXP drives, I think I ended up going through 3 RMAs. Eventually, IBM replaced one with a 60 GB 120GXP (I believe it was the 120 GXP) with an 8mb cache (original drives only had 2mb cache). While the RMAs were a hassle, IBM did a pretty good job of taking care of me.

  8. Not the first vendor to offer this... by jtharpla · · Score: 3, Informative

    We've been getting disk arrays like the DS6000 for months now... for example:

    RocketSTOR R2221
    or
    Silicon Mechanics SM-316RX

  9. Re:Backup 4TB? by keesh · · Score: 3, Informative

    LTO2 tapes are 200GBytes each... Remember that these boxes can flashcopy (instantly do a complete copy of your data, kinda like LVM snapshot support but actually working and a hell of a lot more powerful, oh, and done in hardware), so you don't need to stop your database whilst you're waiting to write it to tape.