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OQO For Sale

captainJam writes "After many delays, the OQO is available for sale, or pre-order actually. However, they will begin shipping in the middle of next month. Read the scoop for how much it'll set you back. Check this link if you're still not sure what the OQO is." Update: 10/13 13:49 GMT by H : I've got a Model 01 that was sent over for review; I'll be checking it out with both XP & Linux; it's definitely one of the cooler handhelds out there.

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  1. Panurgism by mirko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Panurgism is the reaction to an ever repeating tired joke :
    The fact is that I am not interested anymore, I just do not believe what they kept repeating while postponing their product.

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    1. Re:Panurgism by TAGmclaren · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The fact is that I am not interested anymore, I just do not believe what they kept repeating while postponing their product.


      So true.

      And the world has changed a fair bit since that product was announced by the OQO (ex-Apple) guys so long ago. Their former employer came back to trump them with a portable device that people actually want - the iPod.

      The thing that Apple now gets(TM) is that there's no point putting forward a product so far ahead of its time that people don't want it yet (e.g. the Newton). I'll bet that the OQO is going to fall squarely into this category; a great idea that's overpriced, underpowered and breaks too easily.

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  2. Underpowered? by RichardThree3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes I'd seen this over in mip's scan that the OQO has finally launched and is taking orders on their website. I'm not sure though - it seems pretty underpowered for the price. The Flipstart seems to be a more promising unit.

  3. For sub-$2000 by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I get basically the same thing as a newer, clamshell Zaurus, but without Linux? I get a used Apple iBook, but without OSX or Mac goodness? Where's the compelling reason to buy?

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  4. What the hell is it? by gpinzone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow. No description of what the hell this thing is, but he does give links to find out and they're both slashdotted.

    Can the editors please institute a policy that they only accept/post stories that are adequately descriptive?

    1. Re:What the hell is it? by leonmergen · · Score: 3, Informative
      Not even that, but try to link to a site that's a bit more descriptive about what it actually is. It's a long time ago I've seen such a bad 'What is >?' site. It immediately starts of with technical details, that it has a power chord, etc.

      What the hell is it ? Is it a PDA ? Is it a notebook ? Is it the latest wannahave-gadget ?

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    2. Re:What the hell is it? by dave · · Score: 2, Informative

      The OQO computer is a full-featured pocketable Windows XP computer.

      Google search

      dave

    3. Re:What the hell is it? by dpilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can't rtfa, either. But a quick shot at google, and you'll find that, "The OQO computer is a full-featured pocketable Windows XP computer."

      Since we're all talking about "it," it first made me wonder if it's a two-wheeled thingy to make walking obsolete. I actually saw someone using a Segway "in the wild" (as opposed to captivity - ie, demo) today on the way to work - outside on a sidewalk.

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    4. Re:What the hell is it? by ceeam · · Score: 2, Funny

      What the hell is "Windows XP"?

      Ok, ok ;)

  5. Submitted by Timothy... by toetagger1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Check this link if you're still not sure what the OQO is."

    You couldn't find enough room in the cover story to describe what it was, so you linked to a web page that was /.ed when there was a total of 1 comments posted. Great Job!

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  6. From the OQO Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    The OQO model 01 ultra personal computer (uPC) is a fully-functional Windows XP computer. The OQO has a 1GHz processor, a 20GB hard drive, 256MB of RAM, a color transflective display, and integrated wireless, as well as Fire Wire and USB ports. It is powerful enough to run your most complex applications.

    Just 4.9 inches long, 3.4 inches wide, .9 inches thin, and weighing only 14 ounces, the model 01 can fit in a pocket or purse and go with you anywhere. For easy typing and cursor control it has a complete thumb keyboard with TrackStik and mouse buttons as well as digital pen and thumbwheel. It is the much anticipated device for people who previously had to choose between the bulk and awkwardness of a laptop and the limited capability of a PDA.

    The OQO model 01 is also the most versatile computer to date. With the OQO docking cable, it can easily connect to projectors and Ethernet. Placed in the desktop stand it is a desktop computer, allowing you to connect easily to a variety of peripherals, including full-size keyboards, printers, scanners, and high-resolution monitors. It shifts easily from one mode to the other with no data synchronization required. With an OQO model 01 you can move throughout your day and enjoy constant access to all your information and Windows XP programs. You can use the same computer for high-powered applications at work, sending email at home, listening to music on a train, or watching a movie on an airplane. It is the only computer you need.

    1. Re:From the OQO Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What they don't tell you is that the 1GHz processor is a Transmeta chip- sloooooow. Also the hard drive and RAM are NOT upgradable. USB is only version 1.1- slooooow. I know that this has been in development for several years, but c'mon, at least double the RAM and put USB 2.0 in before you release it. It's a goddamn $2000 dinosaur...

    2. Re:From the OQO Website by kidgenius · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it does have bluetooth and 802.11b support.

  7. Damn straight by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would it really fuck up an editor's day to actually do some, you know, editing? What the hell do these guys do all day, and can I get paid to do the same?

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  8. don't tell us what it is then... by close_wait · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why do I have to follow a &%$@ link just to find out even the vaguest idea of what the article is about...?

    lack of editing mutter mutter not like that in my day mutter mutter youth of today mutter mutter ...

    1. Re:don't tell us what it is then... by Webmonger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good grief! It's only been mentioned in 14 Slashdot stories by now. Do you want explanations of what Linux and Sun Microsystems are, too?

  9. Slashdotted! by inkdesign · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guess they're using one to run the webserver!

  10. Nice toy by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For a few nano seconds it will look cool as you have the latest flashiest toy on the block. If that's worth $2,000 to you then fine but I won't be buying.

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  11. Re:And the OQO is... by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.oqo.com/hardware/basics/

    The official marketing version. :)

  12. The important lines... by mreed911 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately for Linux users, there is no option to not have any OS installed.

    The USB is currently 1.1

    So you have to pay M$ royalties, regardless of whether you intend to use Windows, and no USB 2.0 support. Lovely.

    1. Re:The important lines... by joefreshman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, no matter what vendor you purchase a PC from, you're paying M$ royalties. In order for the company to get the M$ discount, they just pay M$ $15 per "desktop" shipped (workstations and servers are usually excluded from these deals).

      In other words, if you order a linux machine from HP, $15 is paid to M$ for that purchase.

      How do I know? I just finished a complete survey of computer vendors to try and find one that wouldn't do this. The only ones are those that would charge you around $100 for Windows XP Home on your machine... in other words, vendors that don't have any agreement with M$.

  13. I've considered that one... by JanneM · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've looked at that one, as well as the Sony U series, but basically, I've come to the conclusion that I really want a keyboard as well, not a writable screen. So much of what I do involves writing in one form or another. I've ended up ordering one of these instead. Sure, it won't (quite) fit into a coat pocket - you need to have it in your bag - but it is a lot more computer for about the same price.

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  14. Here's what it is... by kidgenius · · Score: 4, Informative

    You'd think our boy Timothy would at least link to the page of the manufacturer where there are images, and stands a better chance against /.'ing. Here you go guys...it's some sort of portable computer thing.

  15. Specs by Sgt_Nikon · · Score: 2, Informative

    model 01 ultra personal computer

    1 GHz processor, 20GB HD, 256MB RAM, WiFi, Bluetooth, USB, FireWire, audio, thumb keyboard, 800x480 indoor/outdoor readable LCD (ships with: removable lithium polymer battery, docking cable, desktop stand, power supply, carrying sleeve, and digital pen.)

    Windows XP Home $1899.00
    Windows XP Pro $1999.00

    Microsoft Office Small Business Edition Pre-installed $300.00

    I believe prices are USD.

  16. Sounds like a lot of money for a little computer by nels_tomlinson · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ``Under $2000'' for something which is too small and wimpy to use as a desktop replacement or for gaming (from the article: ``... the OQO isn't designed to be a desktop replacement, nor intended to be a portable video game machine ...), and too big to put in your pocket?

    I think this fills a need that too many folks don't have.

    Also, the article says that many of the specs are out of date, but they're going to launch anyway. That tells me that the second generation OQO is going to have more guts, and be out as soon as enough suckers have bought enough of the wimpy ones to finance further development. I'll wait.

  17. More info links. by will_die · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are some info links
    extremetech
    The register

    Since this is not the first machine of theses types of machines, nor has it been modded to run Linux how does this rate as News for Nerds?

    1. Re:More info links. by silicon+not+in+the+v · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Since this is not the first machine of theses types of machines, nor has it been modded to run Linux how does this rate as News for Nerds?
      Let's see, I'm going to click on this link thing in the summary; I wonder where it goes? Hmm, what's this? "OQO CEO Jory Bell confirms that the x86 architecture is capable of being used with any x86 based OS, such as Linux. Further talks have revealed that some OQO employees have already tested out Linux on the device with success."
      Gee, it's an x86 computer that doesn't even need to be modded. Now what were you saying and why did you get modded up?
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  18. Of Course Its Expensive by cyngus · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course this is expensive. Ever notice how most things work on an exponential curve? As you get smaller and smaller the price begins to go up disproportionately. Why? Cause its hard to cram a whole computer into something the size of a 1990 cell phone! If you think this device is too expensive you don't understand the market its aimed at. Its not really for Joe Sixpack. Its for Joseph Suit that wants to take his computer with him and not carry a laptop.

  19. Am I the only one that read this wrong? by johnthorensen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sounded at first like OQO the company was for sale. My fist thought was, "Sheesh...after all this waiting!". Kind of like your woman telling you at the last minute that she's got a headache :-)

    -JT

  20. This year's underperformer... by gillbates · · Score: 2, Insightful

    However, the OQO isn't designed to be a desktop replacement, nor intended to be a portable video game machine

    So, what exactly is it supposed to be? An overpriced PDA? A toy for high level executives?

    Oh, I get it - I'm going to spend twice the money I would on a desktop to get less than half the machine.

    I really like the concept of the OQO:

    1. Full keyboard
    2. A reasonably sized screen
    3. A 20GB hard drive
    4. Transmeta Crusoe processor
    5. 256MB RAM
    6. It's small enough to fit in a large pocket

    So it has everything I want in a portable, except: price. I can hardly justify spending $2000 for this thing when the Sharp Zaurus has a full keyboard, runs Linux, and costs about 1/2 to 1/4 as much. I don't think I'd have too hard a time finding at least half a dozen other comparable handtops that cost less than half as much.

    Overall, I'm really interested. This would be a really cool machine, but at $2000, it will never be accepted by the mainstream. Price it at $500, and two years from now people will be saying, "Palm who?", and "What's an IPAQ?"...

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  21. Re:Waaayyyyy too expensive by steelerguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are waaayyyyy too right. This thing is priced at least double what it should be priced. More realistically it should be at the $700 range like you said since the memory is low, the wireless is slow, and the processor is not all that.

  22. Specs by Remlik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok here are the specks from the oqo.com site.

    "1GHz Transmeta processor
    20GB hard drive (shock-mounted)
    256MB DDR RAM
    Dimensions: 4.9" x 3.4" x .9"
    Weight: 14 ounces
    800 x 480 W-VGA 5" transflective display (indoor/outdoor readable)
    3D accelerated graphics with 8mb video RAM
    QWERTY thumb keyboard with mouse buttons and TrackStik®
    802.11b wireless
    Bluetooth® wireless
    4-pin FireWire® (1394)
    USB 1.1
    3.5mm stereo headphone jack
    Microphone
    Digital pen
    Removable lithium polymer battery
    Battery life up to three hours, depending on usage
    OQO docking cable includes:
    3D accelerated 1280 x 1024 VGA video output
    Additional USB
    Additional FireWire (1394)
    Ethernet
    DC power
    Audio out

    additional features
    Active hard drive protection that safely parks hard drive heads upon detecting freefall
    Screen that slides on rack and pinion mechanism to reveal thumb keyboard
    Shift, control, function and alt keys that have smart-lock with LED indicators
    Thumbwheel allows for traditional scrolling as well as enhanced features
    Ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts backlight to appropriate level
    External antenna connector for 802.11b (in addition to built-in diversity antennas)


    Now the part that stands out to me (besides the USB 1.1, I guess Firewire is the way to go) is the 3 hour battery life, depending on usage.

    Ok so we've basically stepped back in time 5 years to ultra crappy laptops that don't last long enough to fly half way across the US.

    I'm guessing that if you're using the wifi that battery time is probably less than 2 hours. Reminds me of the Ipaq I used to have that lasted all of an hour without plugging it in. Talk about your useless wireless POC.

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  23. pay half as much: fujitsu p1120 by LordMyren · · Score: 4, Informative

    pay half as much and get the smallest USABLE laptop. The fujitsu p1120. 800mhz crusoe, 4.5h battery life (with extended battery) and touchscreen. keyboard i can code on all day. its a beautiful beautiful system. shell out the cash for the extra ram. and laptops inc/portable one should gladly upgrade your hard drive, if you so request, usually at very reasonable prices.

    Fujitsu p1120. Purchase here and forums for it here.

  24. No innovation here by Scooter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This has to be the most un-imaginative approach to mobile, and unbiquitous computing: take the hardware and OS of desktops and small to midrange servers and make it all smaller. Granted there's a nod to the portability issues with the touch screen and built in wireless technolgoies but this is bolt on stuff from a design point of view.

    Of course it's a remarkable acheivement in engineering to cram all that in to such a small and light device, but the design demonstrates a really blinkered approach to the requirements.

    Think about what you are liekly to do on the move. The input devices fixed to the machine should reflect tese activities: you can't write seriously on a keyboard like that so why bother with the keyboard at all? Voice recognition can handle serious text input with ease these days leaving only the editing to be done when you get back to base and plug it into it's cradle giving you access to a full size keyboard and mouse.

    What is the power hungry and delicate hard disk for? This should be in a datacentre somewhere and presented on the device via an intelligent caching back end that makes it look like the stuff is local.

    Why is it running an OS that has it's design roots derived from hardware designed for the server and desktop computer ? Do we really need all that baggage in a portable device?

    The PDA approach is a much better place to start. With the addition of the right client software it could communicate with larger systems when placed in it's cradle (using protocols like X or framebuffers like VNC), and using a full size monitor/keyboard/mouse. Storage could be central and the device is then also small enough to function a phone.

    Condensing Windows, a desktop OS which in turn has it's philosophy derived from other multi-tasking operating systems for small computers like Unix et al into a small package like that is amazing, but ultimately misses the great opportunities that global networks, wireless connectiivty and a tiered approach can give.

    Still - I'm sure it'll find many fans due to the familiarity factor - same as your desktop/laptop but smaller..

  25. "Cool" or hot? by Great_Jehovah · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've heard things things are real handwarmers.