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Indymedia Servers Given Back

NW writes "According to a post on Indymedia Argentina the two Indymedia servers seized earlier by the FBI are in the process of being returned: "A Rackspace employee stated, "I was just told that the court order is being complied with and your servers in London will be online at 5pm GMT. I will pass along anymore information that becomes available and that I am allowed to." It has been verified that the returned hard-drives are the originals, but the circumstances of the seizure still remain unclear: who took them, why were they taken, and under which court order? Indymedia is not aware as to whether Rackspace is still under gag order. The hard-drives will be treated as "hacked" (compromised) and as a result there will be delays in restoring the sites that are still down."" Here's our previous coverage on this.

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  1. So... by Luigi30 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does anyone know why the hell they seized them in the first place?

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  2. Remember on Nov. 2nd by vegetablespork · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If this had been your site, there probably would have been no media outcry. Your site would still be down, and your drives in an evidence locker with no likelihood of return. When people say "Free speech has consequences," this is the kind of thing they're talking about. Cast a vote against the Ashcroft administration and send a check to the EFF.

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  3. Re:Switzerland and Italy by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If some of them were undercover agents, their lives might be in danger for all you know.

    If I were an undercover agent and if photographs of me were on the web showing me in places where I ought not to be, it's quite understandable.


    No it's not. Taking photographs of demonstrators is an intimidation tactic. If they were serious about taking photos to put into some big database somewhere or whatever, they could easily have done it with telephoto lenses from a distance such that the photographees did not know they were being photographed.

    Instead, it sounds like they stood right out in front of the demonstrators and made it a point to be seen by the people. But, the idiots who thought a little public intimidation would be a good thing forgot about one minor detail - the freaking internet.

    From the reports, it sounds like they just got a little more sauce of the goose than they could handle. So they tried to take their toys and go home.

    Either that, or there is something completely unrelated going on the undercover agent thing is just a thin cover story. Aren't conspiracies great?

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  4. Re:Not exactly, but... by zurab · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The "FBI" did not physically "seize" the drives, since the FBI does not have jurisdiction in the UK, though it appears that Rackspace voluntarily responded to the US subpoena, which was generated as a matter of course under the MLA treaty.

    I don't get the logic in this. I have 2 particular issues:

    1. So what if Rackspace is a U.S. company? If they are doing business in the U.K. they have to obey the laws in that country. Why didn't Italian and Swiss law enforcement agencies contact their counterparts in the U.K. and other listed countries instead? I'm sure the British police could easily seize those hard drives under the British court order.

    What does the FBI have to do with this? Is it because the FBI has more pull now and it's easier to violate people's rights in the U.S. as long as you utter the word "terrorism" or am I overreacting?

    2. As I understand, whatever was on those hard drives belongs to Indymedia. So, doesn't the FBI need to serve the court order to Indymedia directly (instead of or in addition to Rackspace)? Imagine if you are leasing a car from your local dealership and police get a warrant to retrieve an audio/video CD that they believe you are keeping in your car. Can the police serve the warrant to the dealership and then help themselves to your car without letting you know? Wouldn't they have to serve you with the warrant?

    IANAL, are there any lawyers who can verify if these things are legal and if law enforcement does indeed possess such powers?