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'Tit for Tat' Defeated In Prisoner's Dilemma Challenge

colonist writes "Tit for Tat, the reigning champion of the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma Competition, has been defeated by a group of cooperating programs from the University of Southampton. The Prisoner's Dilemma is a game with two players and two possible moves: cooperate or defect. If the two players cooperate, they both have small wins. If one player cooperates and the other defects, the cooperator has a big loss and the defector has a big win. If both players defect, they both have small losses. Tit for Tat cooperates in the first round and imitates its opponent's previous move for the rest of the game. Tit for Tat is similar to the Mutual Assured Destruction strategy used by the two nuclear superpowers during the Cold War. Southampton's programs executed a known series of 5 to 10 moves which allowed them to recognize each other. After recognition, the two Southampton programs became 'master and slave': one program would keep defecting and the other would keep cooperating. If a Southampton program determined that another program was non-Southampton, it would defect." Update: 10/14 15:08 GMT by J : If anyone wants to try writing their own PD strategy and see how it fares in a Darwinian contest, I'll host a tournament of Slashdot readers. Here are the docs, sample code, notes on previous runs, and my email address.

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  1. Re:That's not really so special by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What's being ignored is that the total profit of all the colluding algorithms is less than that of Tit-for-Tat, which makes the solution unviable in real-world Prisoner Dilemma situations. (bidding on large construction projects under certain auction formats, etc)

    As an analogy of unprofitable collusion, I could win the World Series of Poker by hiring enough shills and paying their time and entry fees. I would lose money by doing this, probably more than I could recoup with post-tournament income via endorsements/books/whatever.

    The parent is correct. Tit-for-Tat is still superior in equal numbers, and a modified Tit-for-Tat that can spoof the recognition algorithm of colluders will trounce them.

  2. The article got it wrong by nels_tomlinson · · Score: 5, Informative
    The article got it wrong: they compared the tit-for-tat strategy for the iterated prisoner's dilemma to mutual assured destruction. That's wrong, since nuclear war is usually considered to be a one-time game: once you've blown each other up, there is no next round. Tit-for-tat requires that there always be a following round.

    Repeated games have radically different outcomes than one-time games. It's long been known that where cooperation is possible, cooperation can beat solitary strategies in repeated games. I really don't think there's anything surprising here.

  3. Did the same thing a few years ago... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The length of the code is one of the largest problems to overcome. Performing any signal other than all-cooperate produces a net loss of 1 or 4 points per round for your team in traditional (0,1,3,5) IPD. Simple signalling, ie 4th round defect was very effective. While the master/slave aspect was amazingly effective in my research, the "spoiler" was not. A small population of master/slaves could invade an arbitrariliy large block of TitForTat if evolution was by duplicating winner and removing loser after n iterations. The population of "spoilers" stagnates very quickly in a large TFT population. TFT should be considered a friend, not an enemy because they are a positive growth environment. Going "spoiler" on any non-TFT/ally was quite effective as any bot not prone to cooperate posed the only real risk of "master" losing.

  4. Re:...by cheating! by billbaggins · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually, this is exactly the sort of thing that the organizers were hoping would happen. From the FAQ, question 12:
    But we don't want to [impose limits on the number of entries] as it will be interesting to see if people can come up with strategies that cooperate with themselves within the whole population.
    --
    "The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
    --Winston Churchill
  5. That's right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's right, traitor (hawk) beats TfT in any given trial.

    BUT, in an environment made up of a few players playing each strategy, then you have the following matchups:

    Hawk vs Hawk. Horrible horrible loss for both of them.
    TfT vs Hawk. Hawk wins, but only by a single round.
    TfT vs TfT. Both TfT 'win' - neither betray the other.

    So, overall, TfT does better than hawk.

    The interesting part isn't beating TfT (which, as you point out, isn't THAT hard to do) but in doing consistently better than it against a wide variety of programs. Which is what TfT has long been the baseline for.