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Bibble 4.0 for Linux

Posted by michael on from the bibble-bobble dept.

traycer writes "Finally, professional-grade digital camera raw workflow software for Linux. Bibble 4.0 from BibbleLabs is a Qt-based commercial package (available in Lite and Pro versions) that promises to have batch workflow efficiency, raw conversion speed and image output quality rivalling or surpassing that of Phase One's much more expensive Capture One software (which isn't available for Linux anyway). Bibble 4.0 also supports tethered shooting for some DSLRs, end-to-end colour-managed workflow, and a very nice system of user-definable work queues for those with several photo shoots on the go. Now all they need is a Bibble plug-in for the GIMP..."

21 comments

  1. bibble, bubble, bible trouble by joejor · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    heh heh
    i missed the double b and completely misunderstood the headline

  2. Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I love Linux and free software for my "day job" but when I'm doing photography (including fine art copywork) I wouldn't touch it.

    I mean, what good is "end-to-end colour workflow" when I can't even PROFILE THE MONITOR on Linux??

    Mac dual G5 with Sony Artisan monitor is the way to do it. Linux still has a long way to go before I'd even consider it for color-sensitive photography.

    1. Re:Linux??? by rolfpal · · Score: 1

      A little gamma correction system is here, this is not for full color calibration. for that you need special equipment but its alot better than nothing, and can work for personal use.

      http://pixel.fairyden.net/tkgamma/ tkgamma utility

      Cheers

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    2. Re:Linux??? by jeif1k · · Score: 4, Informative

      I mean, what good is "end-to-end colour workflow" when I can't even PROFILE THE MONITOR on Linux??

      X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides color management for applications. ImageMagick and the Gimp both can use the LCMS.

      Mac dual G5 with Sony Artisan monitor is the way to do it. Linux still has a long way to go before I'd even consider it for color-sensitive photography.

      If that makes you happy, fine. But just because you don't know about color management on other platforms doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    3. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you haven't seen real colour management at work, doesn't mean that people are slagging off Linux for not having real colour management.

    4. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides color management for applications. ImageMagick and the Gimp both can use the LCMS.

      Okay, what brand of color meter works under Linux? Macbeth? ColorVision?

      Where is the KDE control panel for color management? Where do I put the profiles? How do I soft-proof? Can I script in Perl or Ruby like I can do color management scripting on the Mac?

      End-to-end colour management doesn't mean "somebody wrote a half-finished library for it".

    5. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, what brand of color meter works under Linux? Macbeth? ColorVision? Where is the KDE control panel for color management? Where do I put the profiles? How do I soft-proof? Can I script in Perl or Ruby like I can do color management scripting on the Mac?

      What does any of that have to do with Linux? Linux provides color management. It's up to application developers to use it as they see fit. But, yes, you can in fact do most of those things. I suggest you read the documentation.

      End-to-end colour management doesn't mean "somebody wrote a half-finished library for it".

      Why are Macintosh users so often behaving like jerks?

    6. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you have seen color management "at work" on your pretty Macintosh, packaged in a bunch of pretty dialog boxes, doesn't mean you know what it is. Linux has color management tools. No, they are not packaged in the kind of convenient packaging that even a graphic artist or photographer could use. No, not a lot of programs use them yet. But they are there, and should the Linux community have the misfortune that arrogant little Macintosh pricks like you are starting to switch to Linux and demand that vendors port applications with color management to Linux, they can. Let's hope that that day remains far off: your needs are well served by Apple, and when Apple disappears from the scene, you will hopefully switch to Windows. There are certain user communities that are just too much trouble to support and that take more than they give.

    7. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      > X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides
      > color management for applications. ImageMagick and the
      > Gimp both can use the LCMS.

      Um... first you try to compare this to real color management...

      > If that makes you happy, fine. But just because you don't know
      > about color management on other platforms doesn't mean it
      > doesn't exist.

      And then come out with a statement like the above. If you're trying to make an argument, then show an example of full working color management, not some home quality crap.

      (for those who don't have the experience, the above poster has just done the equivalent of comparing a honda with a type R sticker to a F1 racer and expected to sound knowledgeable)

    8. Re:Linux??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (for those who don't have the experience, the above poster has just done the equivalent of comparing a honda with a type R sticker to a F1 racer and expected to sound knowledgeable)

      Yes, quite right. That is, of course, with the Macintosh being the Honda: it's easy to use, it gets most people where they want to go, and it's a black-box solution that can effectively only be serviced at its authorized dealer. And like Honda Type R drivers, by using it, you fancy yourself a race car driver even though you probably have no idea what's going on under the covers.

      Systems like LCMS, on the other hand, are like race cars: not very convenient for the average user, but they get the job done they were designed for, without cupholders or a 10 CD changer. That's the Linux philosophy, and if you don't like it or it doesn't fit your needs, just don't use it; you don't have to get insulting.

  3. This ought to be funny... by Zapman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They were /.'ed yesterday just from being posted to dpreview.com... Heaven forbid what the real /. will do...

    Though when I invest in a DSLR early next year, I think I'll take a long look at their offerings...

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  4. One step closer to taking the "Holy Orders" by ryandlugosz · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is excellent news. I've been using Capture One's software on my PC for a while now to convert RAW images and do the basic digital-darkroom stuff. Unfortunately, the software does not run in Linux and the company (not surprisingly) has no plans to support it. Their software is quite expensive, but does the job nicely.

    Bibble looks like a very complete package. I'll certainly be doing a thorough feature comparison and then will *very* strongly consider purchasing the Linux version. Working with my photos has been on the of last roadblocks for me running a linux-only workstation... I'm looking forward to trying this out!

    -Ryan

  5. Akward.... by GoRK · · Score: 1

    You would think that a company specalizing in image processing would be extremely concious of all the JPEG artifacting all over the images on their site.

    Of course they have been linked fro a lot of sites in the last couple of days... Maybe they are actually reducing their bandwidth usage by recompressing all of the images on their site? I never saw it before, so I really don't know.

    John

    1. Re:Akward.... by lphuberdeau · · Score: 1

      Even their logo is barely readable. That kind of image could probably get even better compression using gif or png, without the horrible quality loss.

      It does not look professional at all, even if the software itself looks good enough. Also, there are very few screenshots of the actual applications (found some outside home page?). I'm surprised to see that from a company that actually sells products.

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  6. Ugh, Bibble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I downloaded this program for the Mac once .. it was HORRIBLE. The interface was straight out of Windows 3.0, all the controls were non-standard, the icon and graphics look very unprofessional, the program was very slow and made my 1.5GHz powerbook's fan come on all the time just browsing images, the images would constantly come in pixelated and then after about 5 seconds finally "render" (hello, cache it the first time, okay?), it even crashed a few times...utterly useless except for it's primary function of converting RAW images to something else.

    I tried Lightbox but it's also pretty rough. I dragged a folder full of .jpg and .psd (of the same images) and it got utterly confused.

    I guess there aren't a lot of photographers who are good programmers, eh...

  7. works nicely by imr · · Score: 2, Informative

    on linux mdk 10.1. I just tried the rpm they provide, and no problem whatsoever.
    They seem to provide automatic enhancements of the pictures based on the model of digital camera. Nice.

  8. QT by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Where are all the trolls bitching that nobody will write commercial software for QT because it costs money ?

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  9. Well, I have just bought it by Wheely · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Raw image manipulation was the one thing that was making me consider running Windows (in vmware of course)and I haven't used a windows box in a looong time.

    The software is extremely good. Anti-aliased fonts are missing (due to a mistake in production, it defaults to off with qt) but that will be addressed in the next update apparently. There are issues with printing that MIGHT be realated to "cups" but these are minor issue compared to the raw speed and qualty of what bibble produces.

    There are open source alternatives which allow you to get by though. "dcraw" is one and the rawphoto plugin for the gimp. A new and promising one is also available here http://www.aei.mpg.de/~udif/ufraw/

    There is another extremely promising though slightly buggy one here (this one allows applying D70 curves which is pretty cool) http://www.through-the-lens.net/index.php?page=5
    However, this Bibble thing is by far the fastest and feature rich

  10. No go on Athlon, SSE instructions needed? by cruff · · Score: 1

    Bibblelite dies on my Athlon system with SIGILL very early on. The hardware requirements list Pentium SSE type CPUs.