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Bibble 4.0 for Linux
traycer writes "Finally, professional-grade digital camera raw workflow software for Linux. Bibble 4.0 from BibbleLabs is a Qt-based commercial package (available in Lite and Pro versions) that promises to have batch workflow efficiency, raw conversion speed and image output quality rivalling or surpassing that of Phase One's much more expensive Capture One software (which isn't available for Linux anyway). Bibble 4.0 also supports tethered shooting for some DSLRs, end-to-end colour-managed workflow, and a very nice system of user-definable work queues for those with several photo shoots on the go. Now all they need is a Bibble plug-in for the GIMP..."
A little gamma correction system is here, this is not for full color calibration. for that you need special equipment but its alot better than nothing, and can work for personal use.
http://pixel.fairyden.net/tkgamma/ tkgamma utility
Cheers
nothing is real
I mean, what good is "end-to-end colour workflow" when I can't even PROFILE THE MONITOR on Linux??
X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides color management for applications. ImageMagick and the Gimp both can use the LCMS.
Mac dual G5 with Sony Artisan monitor is the way to do it. Linux still has a long way to go before I'd even consider it for color-sensitive photography.
If that makes you happy, fine. But just because you don't know about color management on other platforms doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
They were /.'ed yesterday just from being posted to dpreview.com... Heaven forbid what the real /. will do...
Though when I invest in a DSLR early next year, I think I'll take a long look at their offerings...
Zapman
This is excellent news. I've been using Capture One's software on my PC for a while now to convert RAW images and do the basic digital-darkroom stuff. Unfortunately, the software does not run in Linux and the company (not surprisingly) has no plans to support it. Their software is quite expensive, but does the job nicely.
Bibble looks like a very complete package. I'll certainly be doing a thorough feature comparison and then will *very* strongly consider purchasing the Linux version. Working with my photos has been on the of last roadblocks for me running a linux-only workstation... I'm looking forward to trying this out!
-Ryan
You would think that a company specalizing in image processing would be extremely concious of all the JPEG artifacting all over the images on their site.
Of course they have been linked fro a lot of sites in the last couple of days... Maybe they are actually reducing their bandwidth usage by recompressing all of the images on their site? I never saw it before, so I really don't know.
John
X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides color management for applications. ImageMagick and the Gimp both can use the LCMS.
Okay, what brand of color meter works under Linux? Macbeth? ColorVision?
Where is the KDE control panel for color management? Where do I put the profiles? How do I soft-proof? Can I script in Perl or Ruby like I can do color management scripting on the Mac?
End-to-end colour management doesn't mean "somebody wrote a half-finished library for it".
I downloaded this program for the Mac once .. it was HORRIBLE. The interface was straight out of Windows 3.0, all the controls were non-standard, the icon and graphics look very unprofessional, the program was very slow and made my 1.5GHz powerbook's fan come on all the time just browsing images, the images would constantly come in pixelated and then after about 5 seconds finally "render" (hello, cache it the first time, okay?), it even crashed a few times...utterly useless except for it's primary function of converting RAW images to something else.
.jpg and .psd (of the same images) and it got utterly confused.
I tried Lightbox but it's also pretty rough. I dragged a folder full of
I guess there aren't a lot of photographers who are good programmers, eh...
on linux mdk 10.1. I just tried the rpm they provide, and no problem whatsoever.
They seem to provide automatic enhancements of the pictures based on the model of digital camera. Nice.
> X11 has Xcms to characterize devices, and LCMS provides
> color management for applications. ImageMagick and the
> Gimp both can use the LCMS.
Um... first you try to compare this to real color management...
> If that makes you happy, fine. But just because you don't know
> about color management on other platforms doesn't mean it
> doesn't exist.
And then come out with a statement like the above. If you're trying to make an argument, then show an example of full working color management, not some home quality crap.
(for those who don't have the experience, the above poster has just done the equivalent of comparing a honda with a type R sticker to a F1 racer and expected to sound knowledgeable)
(for those who don't have the experience, the above poster has just done the equivalent of comparing a honda with a type R sticker to a F1 racer and expected to sound knowledgeable)
Yes, quite right. That is, of course, with the Macintosh being the Honda: it's easy to use, it gets most people where they want to go, and it's a black-box solution that can effectively only be serviced at its authorized dealer. And like Honda Type R drivers, by using it, you fancy yourself a race car driver even though you probably have no idea what's going on under the covers.
Systems like LCMS, on the other hand, are like race cars: not very convenient for the average user, but they get the job done they were designed for, without cupholders or a 10 CD changer. That's the Linux philosophy, and if you don't like it or it doesn't fit your needs, just don't use it; you don't have to get insulting.
Raw image manipulation was the one thing that was making me consider running Windows (in vmware of course)and I haven't used a windows box in a looong time.
The software is extremely good. Anti-aliased fonts are missing (due to a mistake in production, it defaults to off with qt) but that will be addressed in the next update apparently. There are issues with printing that MIGHT be realated to "cups" but these are minor issue compared to the raw speed and qualty of what bibble produces.
There are open source alternatives which allow you to get by though. "dcraw" is one and the rawphoto plugin for the gimp. A new and promising one is also available here http://www.aei.mpg.de/~udif/ufraw/
There is another extremely promising though slightly buggy one here (this one allows applying D70 curves which is pretty cool) http://www.through-the-lens.net/index.php?page=5
However, this Bibble thing is by far the fastest and feature rich
Bibblelite dies on my Athlon system with SIGILL very early on. The hardware requirements list Pentium SSE type CPUs.