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DVB-T STB/MPEG2 Player That Can Access SMB Shares

feanor writes "Siemens is realeasing beginning of November the Gigaset M740 AV (German text). This is a DVB-T set-top-box that can access SMB shares either via ethernet or WLAN and store its MPEG2 compliant streams. Alternatively it can be used as an MPEG2 streaming client. Other cool features include the ability to hook-up standard USB hard-drives as storage, a dual tuner architecture and a very cool design."

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  1. Not in the US by DaHat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    DVB you say? Shame that's not going to be compatible with the ATSC standard here in the states.

    Maybe, one day such a device will be available here... after the Induce act fails again and is lost forever... after pigs fly, hell freezes over and the {MP|RI}AA and bit torrent get along as friends.

    1. Re:Not in the US by tokenhillbilly · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's really not a question of ATSC in this case. Since the GigaSet is a IP based set top box, it would only be useful for TVoIP applications such as those offered by broadband providers such as the Telco's. Alternately, it could be connected to a cable modem.
      If this becomes popular, somebody will build an ATSC receiver that has and IP output. The issue of course is the CCI (copy protection flag). A decoder would pass this flag to the set top box, but the box would be required by US law to respect the flag and prevent it from offering clear digital signal at it's outputs.
      Since it is DVB, I assume that it supports SimulCrypt, so operating it in a telco environment should be no problem.

    2. Re:Not in the US by Silvrmane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Enough with the acronyms. Messages like this are unreadable to people who don't know what the heck DVB or ATSC mean.

    3. Re:Not in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      hmm, my understanding is that dish network is using DVB devices for its satellite service. so dvb is available in the US. Actually, lots of satellite users are using it.

    4. Re:Not in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    5. Re:Not in the US by TheSync · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, they use different modulation techniques. DVB-T uses COFDM modulation, ASTC uses 8 VSB modulation. DVB-S (satellite) uses QPSK modulation (generally).

      My impression, though, is that these formats all use MPEG-2 transport streams. So if you can demodulate them, and deliver them over coax using ASI (asynchronous interface), they would all mostly work with an MPEG-2 TS demux/decoder.

    6. Re:Not in the US by Jagasian · · Score: 2

      It is called "Google". Learn how to use it. Now, what boggles my mind is how your post got rated as "+5 Insightful".

  2. And four thousand linux users cry ... by SpooForBrains · · Score: 3, Funny

    SMB?? We want NFS or nothing!

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    1. Re:And four thousand linux users cry ... by DaHat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cry all you want, but SMB users still out numbers NFS users.

      I don't intend this to be a flame, just a simple fact of life currently.

      At least with some Samba you can have NFS support, unlike Windows people who hear NFS and are clueless.

  3. What SMB? by leomekenkamp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The interesting question is: does it use some sort of windows, or does it use samba to access those shares?

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  4. MPEG2 in the LBC by mwheeler01 · · Score: 5, Funny

    DSB-T STB that plays MPEG2 over SMB and with so much trauam in the LBC it's kinda hard bein snoop D O Double G with my BLT. I'll be hangin over here with my WLAN wearin SPF 30 cause of the UV...

    Am I the only one that had to read the title and description like 4 times to get the gist of this? I know acronyms are a fact of life but I think my brain is starting to overload on them.

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    1. Re:MPEG2 in the LBC by awtbfb · · Score: 4, Funny


      I know acronyms are a fact of life but I think my brain is starting to overload on them.

      I guess you're SOL.

    2. Re:MPEG2 in the LBC by ajlitt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Frankly, I'm scared poopless that I parsed that title in one shot.

  5. For Now, Useless In The U.S. by aredubya74 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every cable company is (or has been) rolling out digital cable packages to subscribers, touting the enormous number of extra channels, insta-PPV ordering, "digital quality sound" etc. The big catch is that you're shackled to their box - all the years of cable-ready TV sets go out the window. As such, since I'm not aware of any cable companies that will let you bring your own box, cool set tops are useless to us.

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  6. English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. Half backed... by OlivierB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They could have delivered a killer box if it supported Mpeg4.
    There's no way I am going to re-encode all my DivX to Mpeg-2. And I don't want to run VideoLan on my PC to encode on the fly and stream to this thing.

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    1. Re:Half backed... by Denuvo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      DVB broadcasts are MPEG-2 encoded. This device surely simply stores the received MPEG-2 stream unchanged. It's the obvious thing to do (and the same thing done by, for example, the DirecTV TiVo and Windows XP Media Center Edition).

  8. Nothing new here by edwardd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dreambox is a set top box that has supported DVB for years, and it supports DVB-T (Broadcast), DVB-S (Satalite) as well as DVB-C (Cable).

    http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/Bereiche/Produkt e/DM7000_featurelist.php/

    VDR has aslo been available for years to support the same standards under Linux. It is a full featured PVR with a robust plugin interface.

    http://cadsoft.de/vdr/

    North American viewers on the East Coast can take advantage of DVB-S & pick up a number of satalites that cover the Atlantic region. There is a wide variety of FTA programming available. My dad used to be a ham operator, I guess this is the new `ham` hobby.

    1. Re:Nothing new here by cardpuncher · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Despite having a 2.6 kernel (which in theory includes the DVB drivers) and a weekend to spare, I still failed to get anywhere close to getting vdr running. It does *not* support receving and replaying DVB-T with any readily-available DVB-T card. It will fully support DVB-T with such cards *only* if a DVB-S card with MPEG decoder is also present *or* at the cost of some considerable further complication and reduced functionality if you also have an old DXR-3 card or a Hauppauge MediaMVP.

      I suspect the Siemens box will have a lower total cost than the vdr solution and will have the considerable advantage of being installed by simply plugging in the power.

  9. Awesome! by shplorb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This looks cool. Hopefully it can view aussie DTV... I understand that our standard is a weird blend of DVB-T and ATSC in that we use DVB for everything but the audio, which is in AC-3.

    Whilst that made STB's initially expensive, I think it'll be a good decision as we move to the future - it's nice to be able to receive a HD signal on my PC with my DVB-T tuner card and pipe the AC-3 out the fibre to my receiver.

    So yeah, umm... this is cool and perhaps if this or something even better comes out down here that'll be another nail in the coffin of my currently-stalled DVR project.

  10. Re:Xbox. by matthew.thompson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oooh where did you get the X-Box with a DVB-T dual tuner then?

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  11. D-Link DSM-320 by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Informative

    I recently bought the D-Link DSM-320, which isn't a tuner, but allows you to play movies and music as well as view images from your computer, onto your TV via ethernet or 802.11b/g.

    It doesn't use SMB shares, however. You run a server app on your Windows machine and tell it the directories you want to share.

    I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with it so far. The biggest problem is that using the wireless, a lot of movies don't have sound. From what I have read, this is a bandwidth issue and should go away if I go with wired ethernet, but I haven't tried that yet.

    It also has a number of small usability issues. It doesn't respond to the remote control very well and you need pretty direct aim and also need to sometimes press a button multiple times. It sometimes hangs and responds late to button presses, so you end up hitting a button over and over again thinking it's not getting it, only to get all the button hits several seconds later.

    On the other hand, the system allows for automatic firmware upgrades (which it did the first time I connected) and it appears to have improved significantly from earlier versions, so I'm hoping it will continue to improve. I considered taking it back, but I'm going to hold onto it and just hope that the firmware upgrades will eventually remedy most of these problems.

    It's nice to see more of these types of devices coming out. My real goal is to build a MythTV box because I think that's going to be more of what I'm looking for. I have a DirectTV receiver with TiVo and the TiVo is great with the exception that I can't store the movies offline and I can't access my substantial collection of TV shows from my computer with it. So I think at this point MythTV is the only way to go.

  12. Re:RTFA euummm... Tried... by Denuvo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a simple summary. DVB is the digital broadcasting standard used in Europe (and some other places, like Australia). DVB-T is the variant used for "T"errestrial broadcasts; DVB is also used for digital satellite (DVB-S) and cable (DVB-C). Many European countries have started doing DVB-T broadcasts, with the intention of eventually eliminating analogue transmission. There are many DVB-T set-top boxes on the market, as well as televisions with built-in DVB-T tuners. DVB-T PVRs have also started to appear. This box is sort of half-of-a-PVR. Instead of using its own internal storage, it uses an SMB share or a USB hard drive. Clever - this should reduce the price. The point of using MPEG-2 is that this is DVB's native video format. This box is not doing any encoding whatever; it's just saving a copy of the stream as it comes in from the aerial. The box only needs to be able to decode - this, too, should keep the price down.

  13. Re:Compliance by julesh · · Score: 2, Informative

    MPEG2 is the format that DVB uses for transmitting its videos. I don't see the relevance of DivX here; this device is obviously intended for use as a digital video recorder and MPEG2 is the obvious format for it to use for this.

  14. DVB-T by hhawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's worth noting that DVB-T, T for Terrestrial, is the standard for over the air digital broadcasts everywhere in the world except the US, and possibly South Korea.

    DVB-C, the standard for digital cable, and DVB-S is the standard for Satellite TV.

    The US claims that DVB-T doesn't work well in more rural areas, which maybe true.

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  15. Re:RTFA euummm... Tried... by hhawk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not just "and some other places, like Australia" it's EVERYWHERE else but the US and maybe South Korea. It's the world standard.

    It's also used in the US by TV stations who are transmitting feeds back to their station "houses."

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  16. Re:Good decision for the future? by farnz · · Score: 2, Informative
    Australia has DVB-T, with MP@HL video (high definition), and AC-3 audio (Dolby Digital). Europe, which is the other big DVB-T market, uses MP@ML (standard definition), and MPEG-2 audio.

    If Australian DVB-T boxes support MPEG-2 audio as well as AC-3 audio, then they'll work unchanged in Europe; European boxes require simpler video streams than Australia offers, but if they have an AC-3 decoder, they'll handle the audio out there.