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FreeBSD 5.3 Release Candidate Released
Cronopios writes "The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team has just announced the availability of FreeBSD 5.3-RC1. This will likely be the only Release Candidate before the final release of 5.3, so please give it a try and report/fix any bug you find.
You can read the announcement, check the schedule and the 'Known Issues' (problems that
are still being worked on at this time)."
An important difference is that BIND 9.3.0 has replaced BIND 8.x as the default name server.
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Basic binutils are upgraded too, but I find it particularly interesting that the Darwin msdosfs tools are getting incorporated into the BSD tree.
Cool.
Hi
I have been following news for quite a while now and I have tested several fbsd releases form
4.X and 5.2.1 releases from all I have noticed is that I liked 4.X very much especially the memory management, harvest performance, actually the overall performance and the widely available documentation, well that's one of the main reasons why freebsd is known to me.
Know you guys coming close to the 5.3 -stable release alot of users are going to upgrade/switch, right, because this is what we have been waiting for. What about the performance that 4.X had? Will the performance be equal ? Will it be having better performance? Even on low end machines? And especially sinds freebsd is becoming more and more ready for desktop use, performance is a big issue on desktops.(look at Gnu/Linux for example, which I have been using for a very long time know, and all I can remember is that almost all of the releases have scheduling/latency issues. When I was using 2.2/2.4/2.6 All I have seen where low latency patches. What about freebsd?
I'm so exited to try out the new freebsd release. Butt a couple of questions are desired first.
As all you have noticed the above^ part, will fbsd have the same performance or better? When will this be ready 5.3.X ? Could I get some more accurate information about this? Since I'm planning to use it on my desktop.
I have only been reading the bsd section at slashdot so I don't know much about the progress you guys are making on the feature release. Is there a offical news site for freebsd users? Like openbsd has *deadly.org.
What about the compile flags freebsd RC is using compared to 5.3 -stable will there be a lot of changes? What about gnome packages? Will 2.8 make it in 5.3 stable (iso)?
If those things are taking a while to be there, does fbsd have any kernel patches like linux does to improve desktop performance? For example like: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
Joe
Am I the only one that feels that FreeBSD 5.X has gone in the wrong direction?
... it sounds promising, although only time will tell...
I run FreeBSD 5.X on my desktop since I don't feel it's ready to replace the production servers running happily with 4.X; and 5.X and the desktop feels very sluggish and slow in many areas compared to 4.X.
Maybe 5.X is faster on SMP, but on uniprocessor I think it's definitely a set-back compared to 4.X.
I feel FreeBSD 5.x is not yet ready, even it's almost 2 years late based on the original predictions(5.X-STABLE at least).
I don't want to start a flamewar, it's just that I cannot get rid of this bad aftertaste that 5.X left me with.
I really really hope FreeBSD improves over time - it was a fine OS. Meantime DragonFlyBSD is something to keep an eye on
My experiences with USB on FreeBSD is very positive. I tried three different digital cameras and two external disks, mouse etc. and everything was autodetected, although I never tried a USB 2.0 mass storage device. The best thing to do is try out it yourself.
I'll try it my wireless usb adaptor soon.
I have a question. I have a number of small systems of varying specifications (all x86) and I'd love to be in on stress-testing 5.x; I'd love to have been in on testing all the BETAS. But my daily operations in FreeBSD are limited to working in Gnome or XFCE under a few IDEs, compiling ports, doing some maintenance work on servers, playing games, reading Slashdot, etc., none of which I find particularly stressful to the system. If it was, I would be inclined to believe it was a port problem, not a system problem.
What is the best way to stress test FreeBSD that will put it through its paces?
If you've been tracking 5.3-Beta and want to switch to the RCs and eventual RELEASE, don't forget to change your cvsup tag to RELENG_5_3 else you will end up with 5.3-STABLE, which isn't.
Music is everybody's possession.
It's only publishers who think that people own it.
Fuck Beta
~John Lenno
Anyone have any predictions?
Your CPU is not doing anything else, at least do something.
There appear to be bugs in the new SMP scheduler (SCHED_ULE) that no one can track down that cause mysterious crashes and lockups when a system is run under heavy load. The real issue seems to be that only a couple people in the project understand the complex kernel threading model enough to be able to find and resolve bugs, and even they don't seem to be able too most of the time ?
Don't listen to this guy. He has been spamming every -bsd related announcment for weeks now. He is selling an os called HawkinsOS which is still beta. Trolled FreeBSD mailing lists as well, and when he was pointed out (politely I might add) that he might be violating some of the copyrights in the BSD os (not the BSD copyright, but other copyrights included in the base system) he went mad and started a crusade against FreeBSD developers. Began with PHK and DES, but by now, as you can see from the thread I linked to above, he has an issue with everyone, even documentation folks.
This is a hoax folks. He claims to have sold 2000 copies of HawkinsOS, which is basically FreeBSD beta!!! He claims to have developed patches making FreeBSD 'enterprise ready' (meaning: in his opinion, FreeBSD isn't. lol: tell it to yahoo, or netcraft, or even apache.org!), but if you check his site (the spelling mistakes, the prices) or any of the threads he started, you'll see how 'serious' he is.
Yes, it is:
5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 17 13:50:02 CDT 2004
"To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
Well, once you branch a release you cannot make radical changes, that's why 4.x still has gcc 2.95 and why it has that ancient copy of perl. Because 5.x will be the -STABLE branch for years they decided it would be more practical to wipe perl out of the base and let people install it from ports. This way you can install 5.6 or 5.8 or whatever version you need/want.
This wasn't done in 4.x because it would be against POLA (principle of least astonishment). A 4.10 system should work the same way 4.0 did unless a change is justified. You just cannot change the version of perl on a production system. Once all the perl scripts in base were replaced by sh+awk or C equivalents (so the system can work without perl), perl was taken out and the user is given the option to install a package during installation.
Jaysen
DragonFlyBSD
DragonFly is an operating system and environment designed to be the logical continuation of the FreeBSD-4.x OS series. These operating systems belong in the same class as Linux in that they are based on UNIX ideals and APIs. DragonFly is a fork in the path, so to speak, giving the BSD base an opportunity to grow in an entirely new direction from the one taken in the FreeBSD-5 series.
Likewise. Works better for me than hotplugd Recently when helping out a friend with suse, I didn't know how to make a flashdrive work. Partly this is because of my negligence: I forgot a lot about how linux works. Hotplugd was running, yet the system didn't gave any indication of what happens when I plugged it in. On the other hand:
Plug in flash drive in freebsd (5.x) :
plug out flash driveplug out my usb mouse (samsung optical)plug mouse back in Note that even Z dir is detectedHopefully, as soon as the release process is over, they will switch back to ULE in -current (officially, that is. in every dmesg/kernel config file I have seen on current, most developers run ULE). And I hope 5.4 will be the ULE release!
So, to answer your question: yes, 5.3 will be STABLE (and not only in name. the whole 5.x series is fairly stable, at least beginning with 5.1, or at least as stable as your average linux distro). I think it will be out on my birthday :))) (nov 11). But I also think that 5.x will be really ready when they have ULE back as default (ditch preemption if it needs be, ULE is so much better in every other aspect).
Have you got plug-and-play-OS turned on in your motherboard BIOS? If you do, turn it off; FreeBSD 5.x (and some later 4.x) has problems with the option, and Windows doesn't need it anymore. I didn't have to turn off ACPI that way...
(This is occasionally listed as "Device Configuration" or whatever, like on my Toshiba laptop, in which case the right answer is "All Devices".)
The ndiscvt tools that allow you to convert your NDIS network drivers into kernel modules works really well (at least in BETA7). I'm very impressed. (My only gripe was that it had problems reading my .INF file because it was unicode; I converted to ANSI and all was well). I can now run a pretty good GNOME desktop on my Acer laptop with wireless access.
Such a persuasive technical argument, I am sure we are all almost as impressed by your insight as by your inability to work out how to log in.
_O_
.|< The named which can be named is not the true named
renice -20 *setiathome pid* will kill pretty much any OS
This also flies in the face of this troll's claims of FreeBSD developers are uncooperative *sholes. Follow this thread to its end, and you'll see that even though the original poster (as DES rightly claims) was quite confrontative, they went out of their way to reproduce the issue. Robert Watson even commited some code to help trace down similar problems. And some stats from the same guy later, when the problem was solved:
R.I.P. ULE. For now at least.