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Saving Huygens

TazMainiac writes "This months IEEE Spectrum is running an article on how a Swedish scientist discovered that the Titan probe Cassini had a communications flaw that would cause it to lose all data sent back from the Huygens lander as it plunges into Titan's atmosphere. The problem - Doppler effect. The fix: go read the article."

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  1. Re:Obvious by TykeClone · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What is wrong with NASA?

    As you answered in the previous paragraph - it's the non-scientist administrators.

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  2. Re:what esa makes to people by erick99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article says he is a 26-year EASA veteran, it does not say that he is 26 years old. Though, I thought the same thing on my first pass and had to re-read it.

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  3. May not be that simple... by Smilodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is not a simple subcontractor arrangement. It is cooperation between government agencies in different governments, each of which has private contractors working for them.

    Besides the obvious contractual nightmare this represents, there is also the issue of Export control between governments, which cannot be countermanded with a simple non-disclosure.

    IMNAL, but I work on a similar project and you need to learn some of this stuff, sadly, to get your work done. I'm hopeful this incident will help to clear up these sort of cooperation issues in the future.

    Good work in resolving this all involved! Remember Slashdotters, we explore to learn...

  4. Re:Lots of amazing stuff by cellocgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They were supposed to run a simulation, as one of three safety nets to catch such problems, but decided not to because of the cost.
    Which doesn't make sense: did nobody at NASA have the brainpower to conceive of sending an emulated signal just like the one they actually ended up using? How much could it have cost to run a few hours' testing of Cassini's commlink prior to assembly of the craft? It's *always* a good thing to check system components in a full emulation environment.
    I think there were many problems, and one of them was that the system (or system test) engineers didn't stop to think of the Q&D way to get some proper failsafe testing done.

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  5. Proprietary by Eryximachus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A shining example of the promblems with proprietary design. No one can see what's wrong with it without expending a huge amount of effort. I'm just glad someone did decide to spend the effort.

  6. Re:Lots of amazing stuff by erick99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To run the test they would have had to dismantle part of the craft and then go through an expensive recertification process to put it back together. Apparently the cost for all of this was very, very high. Probably not as high as the fix for this problem, though.

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  7. Re:Dont Bother Reading Long Article by orac2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, everyone knows that a)something Doppler related went wrong with Huygens and b) they fixed it with "fancy flying", but that's like saying don't bother to read a history of World War II because everyone knows a) Hitler started it and b) the Allies won.

    The point of the story was to explain the problem with a level of accuracy and detail that was simply missing from most report and to tell the story of some stone-cold great work by an engineer, something of interest to most engineers, and I would hazard, to most slashdotters.

    As far as I am aware, no-one else has told the story of how Boris Smeds pushed through the comms test that showed something was wrong, despite intial rejection and then later, modified it on the fly to reveal the problem was Doppler related, saving months of delay. Learning about his example of how to be a great engineers is the article's real utility, not teaching Spectrum readers how to fix Titan landers.

    Disclaimer -- I edited this story for IEEE Spectrum

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  8. Whats wrong with Proprietary by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean "What is wrong with proprietary?" right? After all, the entirety of this problem was because NASA bought a black box proprietary technology, and without access to its specs could only pray that it performed as advertised.

    In this case, the black box didn't meet the required standards, but there was no way NASA could have known that this company built the black box out of off-the-shelf terrestrial design principles unfit for cosmic use.

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  9. Re:Old news by orac2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm uptight because its annoying when you work on an article and people comment without bothering to read it -- yes, I know that's endemic to /., but it's still a pain in the ass.

    The point is that we dug up an aspect of the story you're not going to see any where else, let alone a general overview program, but a really cool story of a guy who deserves a lot of credit, Boris Smeds. I would hate for anyone to not bother to find out about him because a related program on the telly happened to be braodcast the night before /. decided to post the story.

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  10. Re:RTFM is the fix? by drew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In many European countries there is a month long period where everyone goes on vacation. As I understand it, pretty much the entire country except for basic service industries shuts down for a month. I don't understand the specifics, as I've never been to Europe during a vaction, but I did work on a project once with SwedenPost (the Swedish Post Office) that ended up being pushed back quite a bit because the original project schedule had us going into client QA right as the entire company took a month and a half off for vacation. And this was the Post Office!

    So I doubt that the fact that all of the company's officials were on summer vaction at the same time reflects on their abilities to design complicated hardware. It's just business as usual over there.

    And as the article points out, NASA probably could have gotten the specs if they had signed an NDA but they didn't believe they were necessary. Given that statement, it's quite possible that no one would have looked at the specs close enough to notice the problem, even if they had them.

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