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Medical Care Gets Outsourced Too

Muppy writes "Here's the summary from the most emailed article in The Washington Post today -- about an American who went to India for heart surgery, which he could never have afforded here. U.S.: $200,000 total cost ($50,000 deposit required) for heart operation. India: $10,000 total bill, including hospital, air fare, and a side trip to the Taj Mahal. And the Indian doctors are probably at least as good as those one is likely to get in the U.S. From the article: 'Eager to cash in on the trend, posh private hospitals are beginning to offer services tailored for foreign patients, such as airport pickups, Internet-equipped private rooms and package deals that combine, for example, tummy-tuck surgery with several nights in a maharajah's palace...'"

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  1. I'd do it if it came down to it by grahamsz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Places like india and south africa end up supplying plenty doctors to western countries and i'd feel pretty confident that they'd do a good job.

    Makes me wonder why someone doesn't just get a ship anchored in international waters off the coast of california to offer similar cut price procedures.

  2. Numbers, people, numbers by Quixote · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There are several numbers quoted in that article that will put to rest some of the popular misconceptions being touted here.

    1. Healthcare is expensive in the US because of high malpractice insurance.
    From the article: Trehan, 58, a former assistant professor at New York University Medical School who said he earned nearly $2 million a year from his Manhattan practice ... Moreover, he added, a New York heart surgeon "has to pay $100,000 a year in malpractice insurance.
    This guy was making $2mil a year, and paying $100K for MI; just 5%.

    2. Doctors there are bad
    The founder (as quoted above) was an Asst Prof at NYU, making $2M a year. In fact, a lot of the doctors you find here (in the US) are graduates from the same Indian schools. And many of them working at these top hospitals are those who returned from US/UK. You'll find a good number of them holding advanced degrees (like FRCS) from institutions in US/UK. A good friend of mine (an Indian who finished his residency here) is going back because he couldn't get into the top school he wanted for research. He has his choice of places where he can practice, but he prefers to go back because he says "if I'm going to practice, might as well do it at home". There, the good doctors are put on a pedestal and have a lot of clout in society.

    3. Facilities are bad
    The hospital mentioned, Escorts, is top-notch and was founded by an Asst Prof at NYU who gave up a $2M/yr package to go back. Here's another quote from the article: Escorts is one of only a handful of treatment facilities worldwide that specialize in robotic surgery,

    4. Quality of care will be bad
    From the article: the death rate for coronary-bypass patients at Escorts is .8 percent. By contrast, the 1999 death rate for the same procedure at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where former president Bill Clinton recently underwent bypass surgery, was 2.35 percent, according to a 2002 study by the New York State Health Department.

    5. It is cheap because it is bad
    Again, from the article: For example, a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan costs $60 at Escorts, compared with roughly $700 in New York

    I will relate a personal story. A very good friend of mine hurt his back (slipped disk) while travelling in India in 1997. He had to be hospitalised, and operated upon. After operation, he got 1 month of in-home nursing care. The total bill? $4000.

    When he came back, he told his insurance company about this. They asked him to go to a local doctor. He checked him out, and said that the job the Indian doctors had done was as good as anything they would have done locally. And the insurance company paid the $4K even though he hadn't followed procedure (called them and sought approval), saying that just the MRI alone here would have cost $4K. There, the MRI, surgery, post-operative care, etc. all came at the price of just an MRI here.

  3. Re:This is news to ANYBODY? by peter+hoffman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You are absolutely right. I used to sell health insurance and I am currently CTO of a company that provides medical practice automation software (which includes claims processing).

    When I have had to pay for my own health insurance I get a policy with at least a $5,000 deductible and high maximum benefit. I also open an MSA (Medical Savings Account). That way I pay for my family's routine visits out of my own pocket (cheaper than comprehensive insurance over the course of a year) and I am still protected against a major medical catastrophe.

    The next layer to add to this is to, before telling the MD you'll be paying cash, ask if you can get a discount for cash. Sometimes (often?) you can since, on average, it saves the MD about 20% to not have to go through the claims process.

    The result is a health insurance set up which is portable and relatively affordable.