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GForge 4.0 Released

jaaron writes "Ever wanted your own personal SourceForge? If so, then be sure to check out GForge which just released version 4.0. GForge is a fork of the original GPL'd SourceForge code and like sf.net provides forums, mailing lists, revision control via CVS or Subversion (yes, Subversion!), issue trackers and much more for any number of teams and projects."

23 comments

  1. Don't forget ClearCase by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 0

    Revision control via CVS, Subversion, or Clearcase!

    Yes, that godforsaken piece of crap administrator's nightmare. That one is supported too.

    I'm exaggerating a little, but not much. It's a love/hate relationship with that software.

  2. Useful Only Once? by Rie+Beam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sometimes, I think some things really don't need to have a large public offering such as this. Don't get me wrong - I think it's great that someone is doing this. I just think that, really now, who, other than huge developers who most likely have something similar to this, is really going to use this?

    "Yes! My own SourceForge! Add Project! Please Wait For Authentication! I Approve...Myself!"

    1. Re:Useful Only Once? by jaaron · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just think that, really now, who, other than huge developers who most likely have something similar to this, is really going to use this?

      We use it internally at my work as do many other companies from what I understand. It's great for handling internal customer requests and project tracking. In fact, if I had my way, GForge would be the core of our entire intranet.

      So yeah, most single developers may not set this up on their home network, but as soon as you have a team (even a small team), it's a really great tool.

      Check out this list of GForge powered sites.

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    2. Re:Useful Only Once? by Joff_NZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wish I had mod points right now, but instead, I'll add a 'me too'. We're currently running GForge internally - and although i'm the only developer, it helps me keep track of a number of projects, from documentation, to bug tracking to coding tasks. Plus it lets my manager easily see what kind of progress i'm making.

      We've been using subversion for revision control, so the CVS module was useless to us, but now that this is included, I think we'll be moving to GForge 4 pretty soon.

      The other thing, is that installing GForge is a snap. I tried to install SourceForge a couple of years ago, and it was a complete nightmare - everything was hardcoded and obfusticated - I guess so SF can sell support to people wanting to install their own one.

      GForge wins.

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    3. Re:Useful Only Once? by theCoder · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you're really pleased with GForge. My company has looked at getting a SourceForge installation setup for our internal projects. While the response was gernally positive, SourceForge is an expensive product -- its price is per user and not this is a fairly large company where not even all the software people would necessarily use it. It also seemed like it was a PITA to get setup.

      Do you have any thoughts on how GForge compares to SourceForge? Mostly in terms of features and ease of use by both users and admins. How difficult is it to get setup? How much admin support to project members need? What sort of permissions are there? Do most/all of the developers at your company like GForge? How difficult was it to get developer "buy-in"? What about management "buy-in"?

      Thanks in advance!

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    4. Re:Useful Only Once? by jaaron · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have not evaluated the new enterprise version of SourceForge, so it's hard for me to compare.

      Setting up GForge isn't a cakewalk, but it's not horrible either. If you're going to run it on Debian Linux, then it's very simple. Otherwise, you just have to follow the directions and give yourself a couple of hours. A lot of it depends on how many options are you going to use. Will you use Subversion? Mailing Lists? LDAP? Adding these components will increase the install time.

      Most all the developers like GForge, but it took us a while to figure out exactly how we were going to use it. One concern we had was cross-project reporting, that is, developing reports that span several GForge projects. There are new default reports in 4.0 that do this and once you figure out the database schema it's pretty easy to add whatever else you need.

      Manager buy-in has been fine since GForge is years ahead of what we were using (which was next to nothing) and cost us next to nothing. However, we didn't get professional support from the GForge Group though I wish we had. Their prices were very reasonable, could do all sorts of customizations, and could have saved us (me) some time.

      So, in conclusion, I definitely recommend you check out GForge and contact the GForge Group. I imagine they can do better than what SourceForge is offering.

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  3. Corperate GForge User by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I am a GForge user, and I'm actually quite impressed with it. We have roughly 3,000 users, hosting about 50 projects. These users are in multiple countries all over the world, and this software allows us to collaborate seemlessly, as if they were in the cubical nextdoor; and its also great to control from a project manager's point of view. Case in point, one of our projects has developers in Japan, Canada, and the US, and the project manager is in Japan. Using previous systems, a project of that size would take maybe years to get as far as it has... using GForge, its taken us a mere month.

    Unfortunately, since it is for internal usage only, I cannot say who I am, or who I work for. Lets just say we are one of the top video game manufacturers.

  4. Useful for its parts by abulafia · · Score: 2, Informative
    You're right, to an extent. Few folks are actually going to deploy the reference release.

    I've used parts of prior releases, though - there are handy things there, and it saved me a hell of a lot of work.

    The conjunction of the features are terribly useful in many specialized settings, and not having to either ingregrate a bunch of different crap or rebuild it is great. I suspect this is how most people use it.

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  5. Will SF ever get Subversion, then? by mattgreen · · Score: 1

    I'd be really interested in SF if it would support SVN, since there are a bunch of IDE plugins for it already.

  6. Trac by WasterDave · · Score: 1

    I may have mentioned it before, but I just started using trac as a sort of sourceforge sort of intranet thing. I was only really looking for a cgi gateway to subversion too. It's a bitch to install, but worth it.

    Get the latest straight out of version control and use it as tracd (even though it's marked as experimental). Way easier than running it through apache.

    Dave

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  7. Set up your own SourceForge... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    Accept that it will be completely useless, due to being continuously slashdotted.

    Seriously, the great thing about SourceForge is not the tools they provide, but that they provide them free of charge to every project great and small, with enough bandwidth and storage space.

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    1. Re:Set up your own SourceForge... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      Now am I happy I am not writing my paper at this time...what a bad post that was. What I meant is:

      Except that it will be completely useless, due to being continuously slashdotted.

      Seriously, the great thing about SourceForge is not the tools they provide, but that they provide them free of charge to every project great and small, with enough bandwidth and storage space to support everything they host. /me goes back to bed

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  8. Sarovar.org is planning an upgrade by raj2569 · · Score: 1
    I just posted a news at sarovar.org, about it. We will be moving to this version as soon as Debian also releases Sarge (i know, i know... :). In fact we have been thinking of this for a long time and was waiting and waiting for debian. And this new version came at a right time.

    btw, according to GForge list, we are 9th biggest public GForge site.

    raj

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  9. Re:Do we need it? by cranos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Umm GForge is a fork of the old source forge code, they haven't touched CVS or subversion.

    GForge is a project management system. The reason it was forked was because VA took the Source Forge code base closed source in order to try and make a buck.

  10. Re:Do we need it? by andrew_j_w · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sourceforge took their code closed source so there was no choice but to fork the code otherwise no open development could take place.

    If you want use the offical sourceforge code then you must pay for it, otherwise you use GForge. Don't confuse the Sourceforge site with the Sourceforge code. Gforge is used to create your own version of the sourceforge site.

  11. Incase anyone is intrested ... by Sonic+McTails · · Score: 1

    The Savane project is another SourceForge-based product. It's what's currently powering Savannah, and it features MySQL compatiable, localization, and a simple setup and configuration system. Although it lacks some of GForge's featuers, most of the same functionality is there and Savane is, IMHO, easier to setup on systems when you can't use apt-get to install gforge. It's definately worth a look.

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  12. SF Enterprise and GForge by Cadre · · Score: 1
    My company has looked at getting a SourceForge installation setup for our internal projects. While the response was gernally positive, SourceForge is an expensive product...

    Just throwing in my experience since we evaluated SF Enterprise.

    The facility I'm working at evaluated SourceForge Enterprise awhile ago (they wanted an arm and a leg per user) They also didn't seem that interested in letting us use an evaluation box. It was well beyond GForge (at that particular stage which was the early versions of 3) in terms of features. In fact one of the things we really liked was that it could search the contents of proprietary documents such as MSWord (more of a function of their Oracle backend rather than SF itself we think). From what we did get to use though, the administration and regular usage was very polished and easy to use.

    We eventually went with GForge and avoided all of the setup by just buying the Bugopolis Project Station (GForge.org hadn't offered their suite of commercial support yet). It's served us fairly well (they've been extremely slow getting us updates, we're still at 3.21 I think), but though it looks like we're going to move to the GForge Group for commercial support.

    Some of our developers have jumped right in and love it. Most of the older developers have resisted it (heck, it's like pulling teeth just to get them to use CVS and stop pigeon-holing verions of code around various systems (though, they also may not be using it because we haven't pushed it that hard, we're still in the beginning stages of updating policies)) but I think when we move to GForge 4 we'll start developing policies around it and pushing it harder and they'll come around.

    An addition note: the SF guys made a bunch of follow-up calls and eventually found out that we went to GForge they were much more willing to get us an evaluation box and try and explore other pricing options with us... We'll be sticking with GForge though, version 4 is pretty much comparable with what we saw in SF Enterprise (or so it sounds from the release notes, haven't actually played with 4 yet).

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  13. A Snap To Install? by magefile · · Score: 1

    I have to add a friggin' vhost to install the thing. Now, granted, that is the Right Way to use GForge, but I just want to run a few small projects, and I'd much rather just plop it in at http://example.com/gforge, or even http://example.com/~gforge.

  14. So much for Scmbug then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The goal of Scmbug was to provide generic integration of SCM with bug-tracking. And get GForge went ahead and implemented their own solution.

    Why can't we all just get along.

  15. Savane more GPL friendly? Other differences? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I do not currently use GForge or Savane, but I am considering installing Savane. The last time I checked, GForge required GPL-incompatible PHP4, but Savane had recently added support for GPL-compatible PHP3. I'd rather install no SourceForge variant than soil my system with PHP4.

    I, for one, would like to know if Savane supports Gantt charts or something similar, like GForge does. Or, perhaps, is there some more modular way to integrate this functionality into a Savane site?

    Also, I must say that while savannah.gnu.org is visually okay I suppose, gforge.org looks a lot cleaner and clearer. I wonder if there is some important difference in the page layouts that gforge and savane generate.

    Finally, are there other forks besides these three (GForce, Savane and proprietary SourceForge)? I thought that there had been a fork between Savannah and Savane also.