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Jef Raskin On The Mac

der Kopf writes "Jeff Raskin, one of the creators of the Macintosh and inventor of the click-and-drag interface, states in an interview for the British newspaper The Guardian that "the Mac is now a mess. A third party manual (Pogue's The Missing Manual) is nearly 1,000 pages, and far from complete. Apple now does development by accretion, and there is only a little difference between using a Mac and a Windows machine."" While I think Raskin has some good points, I think there's a far cry between the Mac & XP.

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  1. The Future of Trolling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Trolling is dead. This place is dead. This place has been dead for far too long. The Revolution and The Rebirth are coming.

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    ~ The New True Troll High Council

    1. Re:The Future of Trolling by tomstdenis · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      ... psst dude it's 2004. Get with the times.

      It's one thing to troll, but when you do a bad job of trolling... well that just makes you some kinda idiot. I bet you rode the "special" bus to school right?

      Tom

      --
      Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  2. Vladequacy - The Secrets REVEALED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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    NAME: Burdge, Jonathan E-MAIL: jlb@io.com, jlbatdarc@w-link.net, elby@adequacy.org, darc@w-link.net ALIASES: lb, jlb, Elby

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    NAME: Osborne, Michaell E-MAIL: osborm@yahoo.com, dmg@adequacy.org,

  3. William Scott Lockwood III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Before you visit the new crapflooder website, www.sporks-r-us.com, there are a few points you should review about the owner and administrator of SRU, Vladinator. Scott (Vladinator's "real life" handle he goes by in public) won't tell you any of the following facts because he's afraid you'll be put off by his sordid, depraved, criminal past and close your browser window before he can log your IP address and password!

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    • current wife (#4) weighs over 400lbs!
    • can't hold employment for more than a few months!
    • high-school dropout!
    • dishonorably discharged from the Navy after eight years of failure!
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      ( and often posts communications between them to make them appear to be more than one person!!! ):

      • Lonesome Cowboy Burt
      • Pinkerton Floyd
      • Quick Star
      • Reza ( supposedly his wife!!! )
      • William Scott Lockwood III
      • wsl3
      • Vladinator

    • restraining order against him by his own children!
    • callous software pirate and user of hacker tools!
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    • laid waste to message forums on Kuro5hin, MacNN, MacSlash, MsGeek, and Slashdot!
    • paid over $50 for tools to abuse Kuro5hin into mojopacolypse Hell!

  4. What is it with one-button mice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why do macs still ship with one button mice? Is it anything more than stubborness? Seriously. Here's the reasons I've seen:

    1) One button is all you need.

    In a way that's true but two buttons sure as hell are more convenient. You don't need digits on a keyboard or a keypad either but they're also sure as hell convenient.

    2) You can buy a replacement mouse anywhere/we have other mice laying around.

    That's nice. Part of the purchase price for your Apple machine went towards the manufacturing and design cost of your mouse. If Dell shipped useless 12" monitors with their computers I don't think people would be too pleased if they added a cent to the purchase price.

    3) Some people still like the one-button mice.

    Is it a majority? I doubt it.

    -- Posting anonymously as not to face the wrath of zealot mods.

  5. Re:Mac OS X "Manual" by jsin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You guys sure seem to spend alot of time with "grandma"...