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New Apple iPod with Photo Capabilities

artlu was the first of many to submit: "I was just watching my Dow Jones streaming news wire, and I saw that Apple is releasing a new iPod that will have photo captabilities. The news stated that the new iPod will be able to hold 25,000 photos as well as your traditional iPod functionality." Apple's got a page up about the iPod Photo and of course a press release.

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  1. A LOT more new stuff... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    In addition to the iPod Photo, which comes in 40GB and new 60GB flavors for $499 and $599 respectively, there's also:

    - iPod U2 Special Edition ($349)

    - The Complete U2, a digital box set of every song ever recorded by U2, plus some crazy and rare recordings, available in November for $149 via the iTunes Music Store, with a $50 certificate towards it with the iPod U2 Edition

    - iTunes 4.7

    - QuickTime 6.5.2

    - iPod Updater 3.0.4 (2004-10-20)

    - iPod-focused Apple Store: iPod Store

    - EU iTunes Music Store added to 9 more European nations, with over 700,000 songs

    - iTunes Music Store is coming to Canada in November

    - Press releases

    Other cool things: in addition to its dock, the iPod Photo can also even output video via its own headphone jack with a special 1/8" AV cable, and the 220x176 65536-color screen also displays album art while playing, as well as color games, etc! (Don't have much/any album art? Get it!)

    While Steve Jobs talked at length during the presentation about why Apple isn't doing video on a portable device itself for reasons of battery life, device/screen size, weight, etc, now that this device has video output capabilities, I think it's a clear sign of the direction; that is, future devices - or future firmware - being able to output video content to an external monitor/projector. Imagine this: your iPod dock, already at your entertainment center. The iTunes Movie Store (or, your own iMovie content). H.264/MPEG AVC (Microsoft WMV9/VC-1 has hit some snags in its bid for standardization). Download a movie, sync to your iPod. Drop the iPod in its video dock at your TV (or ANY device that has video inputs). Done. And a LOT cleaner and easier than having a whole separate computer that needs to be maintained as a part of your entertainment center. Add 802.11g with things like AirPort Express to the mix, and who knows what might come...

    1. Re:A LOT more new stuff... by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Informative

      To be honest, I'm extremely disppointed in the iPod Photo offering. Before I get marked down as a troll, I have many legitimate reasons:

      I own an Archos gMini400. It plays DivX/XviD videos (full movies -- got Lord of the Rings and about a dozen MST3K episodes on this thing right now), views photos on screen and on TV (just like iPod Photo), plays music with album art (just like iPod Photo) and has 10 hours claimed battery life playing music, 5 hours video (although I've had it run closer to 7 hours). I also got mine for $340 by using CNet's pricewatcher feature.

      Aside from the bigger hard drive, there's absolutely nothing to sway me to the iPod Photo from my gMini. The price is right, the interface is good (not as great as iPod's but few are) but an interface isn't worth $140 to me. The Archos works on both Mac and PC flawlessly, and even has a built-in CF slot (something photo sites have already frowned the iPod upon).

      Unfortunately, I thought Apple's first color would have a lot more revolutionary features. Instead, they're playing catchup to other companies, with an expensive and not-so-worthy introduction into colored screens (I mean come on... they don't even win on battery life anymore). I'm personally very glad I jumped Apple's iPod ship a few months ago.

    2. Re:A LOT more new stuff... by Syriloth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The white earbuds aren't all that great anyway. The only reason to keep 'em is so that you can show off to the world the fact that you have an iPod. The best low-profile headphones around (in terms of bang for the buck) are the Sony Fontopia MDX-EX71SL in-ears, in my opinion. If you can get used to wearing headphones that are essentially silicone earplugs (no problem for me, I worked landscaping last summer and wore them all the time) then you'll probably be really pleased by the amount of detail they can put out, and the fact that they have pretty good noise-isolation characteristics is a nice bonus since you can listen to music over the ambient noise without having to crank the volume up to distortion levels. And they're black. Just make sure to get the SL version, there's an LP that looks the same but is lower in quality. And I guess that there's a WX series now, that's just like the SLs except in white, for the iPod Elite. Hunt around and you can probably find them online for $35 or so.

    3. Re:A LOT more new stuff... by Moofie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I bought my iPod because it works better, not because somebody thinks it's cool.

      Style and good design are not the same thing. Style changes every week. Good design is timeless.

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    4. Re:A LOT more new stuff... by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 5, Funny

      I live in NYC too and I agree with the OP; iPods are a dime a dozen around here.

      Wow. I've got to get into New York. I can't find an iPod for under $100 anywhere around here...

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  2. You read it here first! by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    An iPod with picture capabilties: I dub thee The iPorn

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  3. iTunes improvements too! by fracai · · Score: 5, Informative

    included with the announcement is news that 9 additional countries (Austria, Belgium, Finland, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain) in Europe now have access to the iTunes Music Store and that the much awaited Canadian store will be available in November.

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  4. I like the Album Art option by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of those little extra touches that always puts Apple products ahead of their competitors.

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  5. Re:More info by fracai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Overkill for some, not all. I'm using almost 30 GB right now and while I don't listen to all of that every week, it's incredibly nice having all my music in one place. If the 60 had been available when I bought my 40 GB just 3 months ago, I'd have bought it.

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  6. Overkill? by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures.

    Think movies.

    See the last paragraph here.

    1. Re:Overkill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Think movies.

      I can't! I'm still thinking different!

  7. Happens again.. by marcosc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here we go again, people saying this iPod won't be a hit. They said the same thing on the original iPod and the iPod Mini. Those were both huge hits, and this one will be too.

  8. Re:Too expensive/not useful by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Actually, it does make sense. I'm seeing a lot of people with camera phones who use them, for the most part, to show pictures they've collected to other people. The major limitation of them is that they can only store pictures they took with the phone. I have a friend who is in absolute love with her two nieces and any opportunity she has she'll use to show pictures, but for now it's been email (awkward to make sure it's with you when you want it) or camera phone (only shows pictures taken and not yet deleted) bound.

    I predict that people who buy iPods with this will use it - people will store their entire digital photo libraries on it and whip out the iPod to show friends and family photos they've taken.

    While this functionality will not sell iPods alone, I think it has great potential to make an iPod that's a "I'd kind of like this" into a "I really want this". Slashdotters are, as usual, not what this iPod's aimed at. Think more in terms of proud family members - mothers and aunts especially.

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  9. Re:More info by Lev13than · · Score: 5, Funny

    Advertised 15 hour battery life
    65k-color screen
    220 x 176 pixel resolution
    Same click wheel as previous generation


    Still only a single click wheel? What a joke - they'll never be able to compete with Windows until they add a second one.

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  10. Re:More info by Maskirovka · · Score: 5, Informative
    Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures.

    I could fill this up on a backpacking expedition or vacation.

    290pics/gig *60 gigs = 17400 jpg
    or 53pics/gig * 60 = 3180 raw photos from my d70.
    That's not including the 5 gigs of music I might bring along too. Compare the cost of this (and an ipod CF reader) with other portable photo hardrive options and it should look very attractive.

  11. Re:You mean... by switcha · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I think of photo capabilities, I think of something take can _take_ photos.

    Yes, because what the world is waiting for is a device that can store tens of thousands of shitty photos. Leave the image capture to the proper equipment. The portability is what's cool for sharing the pics, not taking them.

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  12. Same thing was said... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...about the original iPod, and iPod mini.

    And they're runaway successes, to put it mildly.

    On one hand, we had analysts and pundits of all types saying Apple will fail if it *didn't* include photo/video functionality in a handheld, and now we've got a luminary here predicting it will fail because it *did*.

    Well, I think I'll trust Apple's judgment on this one, considering it seems to know what it's doing, thank you.

  13. I know more than Steve Jobs! by dynayellow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks like it's time for this link again.

    No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. -You know who...

  14. Re:Missing Feature by Miphnik · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Which format card reader would you put in? Compact flash? MMC/SD/Mini SD/TransFlash (last two with adapters)? Memory stick? xD? All of these are in common use in digital cameras (or camera phones, in the case of TransFlash), leaving Apple with three choices:

    Put readers for all of them in, and grow the iPod photo even further (already noted that it's thicker than the 4G iPod)

    Build multiple versions of the iPod photo, each with a different card reader to minimize size impact, but complicating manufacture, inventory, and marketing (40GB/SD, 60GB/xD, 40GB/Memory stick, etc.)

    Leave the card reader out to keep things simple (and less expensive to manufacture and support), and let third parties fill in the gap with an external device -- possibly like a revised version of the existing Belkin card reader
    I'm not surprised Apple chose #3. Now, why Apple didn't design the iPod photo to download photos directly from a digital camera via a USB 2.0 cable, that's another question entirely...

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  15. Thank God Slashdot members don't run Apple by calstraycat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As an Apple shareholder and happy owner of some Apple products, all I can say is: Thank God Slashdot members don't run Apple.

    Every time Apple introduces a new product, there is an endless series of posts about why it sucks, why it won't sell, what features were left out, why the new features are worthless, why it's too expensive, lists of poorly selling products that are "superior" and have more features and on and on and on.

    Apple's revenues are up, their profits are up, they have a slew of successful products and they have a lot of happy customers.

    Give it a rest guys. Let the market decide if the latest offering sucks. Based on history, when Slashdotters say an Apple product won't sell, it ends up being a phenomenal success.

  16. Re: Photo iPod a Dud by Thorkytel+Ant-Head · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have to disagree with your assessment of the iPod Photo. First of all, the regular iPod is only $100 cheaper than the iPod Photo, not "half the price." Secondly, you can look at photos on any television, not just on the iPod screen. Thirdly, if your digital camera holds 25,000 photos, I'm sure the memory card alone cost a lot more than $100. And I'm sure your digital camera doesn't automatically sync with your latest pictures, doesn't allow you to make custom albums, doesn't allow you to output slideshows with music, and so on. Say what you want about wanting to save money, but for people who want to carry lots of pictures around with them, paying $100 more is very, very reasonable. And that doesn't even count the full-color album artwork, a clearer screen, and the various other perks of a color iPod.