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Verizon Taking FTTP Installation Orders
ooglek writes "Verizon is now qualifying and accepting installations for FTTP (Fiber To the Premises)! $39.95 for 5MB/2MB, $49.95 for 15MB/2MB, and $199.95 for 30MB/5MB. No word yet on whether Verizon will block ports (25, 80, etc) for incoming or outgoing traffic; with 2MB upload, I hope to basically run a small data center in my basement. Both phone and Internet will come through the fiber, and there is an unofficial rumor of video services as well by the end of this year. Got Fiber? My install date is November 2nd in Falls Church, VA (near DC). Several people in Keller, Texas have posted pictures and reported 14,679 kbps download and 1,794 kbps download speeds." Update: 10/26 23:52 GMT by T : That second "download" ought probably read "upload."
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>non-techie jurors will be awarding oppotunistic internet users money in civil suits all over the place.
Really? How many lawsuits are there regarding speed?
If you have ever worked in tech support you'll know that a good % of the calls are of kiddies who goto dslreports and complain that "Im getting ripped off." Usually they dont know the difference between mbps and kbps or they have a shitload of spyware and Kazaa running at the same time. Or they are so far from the CO that their DSL speed suffers.
No need to drag out the "lawyers are bad!" bogeyman. I suppose you also think the case against MS was a big conspiracy and if you got arrested tomorrow you would defend yourself in court.
I know this is crazy to say around here but a lawyer can take a good case or a bad case(or client). Many class-actions are very ethical, some aren't.
"All I know about Bush is I had a job when Clinton was president."
Allow me to translate: "I have no understanding of how economics and policy interact"
Libertas in infinitum
Yeah, you'd need that to make up for the fact that you're living in the sardine can on a shelf full of other sardine cans.
>but if you notice, there is no guarantee on the speeds for any ISP.
That's not true. In the residential market, yes, mostly because of DSL. But if you get some commercial services, leased lines, ATM, T1, etc your contract will have (or you will negotiate) a level of service they cannot go under.
This is all just about contracts. It seems to me that people just like to bitch about lawyers and would rather be lied to than deal with a company being honest with them by stating that speeds are variable.
Not to mention, its not some carte blanche to do whatever they want. The early days of broadband when the cable companies oversold their product really are gone, and if they come back you at least have the choice between dsl, WISPs, leased lines, etc.
Also, if someone wants a guaranteed minimum level of service, they can pay commercial rates and be done with it.
Verizon has been offering high speed Internet access for quite a while now to both businesses and residential accounts and with Verizon's high speed services that I've used, I have never had any restrictions on which ports I could use both inbound and outbound with our business connections.
/residential/ accounts, they can send and receive email through their ISP's mail server (which should also restrict what you can use for the From: line).
For a residential internet service account, there is no legitimate reason for inbound SMTP (and one could argue other services). I will take it a step further and state that there is also no legitimate reason whatsoever for outbound SMTP access, for residential accounts, to any mail server other than the ISP's mail server. It has been well documented that most spam and viruses come from infected home computers and home networks which are being used as spam and virus launching points. "What if I'm a system administrator running my own mail server?" Well, you can pay business rates for open ports like the rest of us have had to do with Internet service for the past 10 years, and what we've had to do with phone service in God knows how long. If you're a computer hobbyist who needs these ports open, well, hobbies are expensive. Deal.
It is unreasonable to expect that the business communitee spent excessive amounts of time and money defending against spam and virus propagation, when most of it is coming from infected home computers that have no business at all connecting to any mail server other than their ISPs, just because a bunch of computer geeks want to play "hobby web hosting provider" at home yet still pay the same rates as casual users.
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I have a job to do running an enterprise wide area network. I shouldn't have to incur the extra cost of time and money stopping email-bourne viruses and junk mail from infected home computers that shouldn't be bypassing their ISP's mail server in the first place. If you want full access to all ports, you should pay up just like the rest of us responsible IT administrators have to. We're the ones actually smart enough to keep viruses and spam from getting onto the Internet from our networks.