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P2P Not Dead, Just Hiding

adavies42 writes "Contrary to media reports, P2P is not dying (PDF); it's just becoming harder to detect. In a paper for CAIDA, the Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis, researchers present evidence that the supposed decline in P2P traffic is actually due to a decline in easy-to-track protocols as those that change port numbers on a regular basis become more popular."

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  1. Freenet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Freenet - not only hidden, but actually impossible to find and decrypt. This is the future of illegal (illegal pr0n, piracy, avoiding censorship in oppressive regimes) P2P. Actually, it is not the future. It is the present. The only disadvantage is speed, but it is getting better and connections are getting faster anyway.

    1. Re:Freenet by casuist99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I tried Freenet about 6 months ago and was kind of confused. It seemed incredibly slow and didn't have hardly any content available. Now, has is recently "caught-on" such that more content is available, or are we still talking about the REALLY SLOW and low content network that it was in the past?
      I agree that the concept is probably the way that p2p will travel in the future.
      Are there links to files/sites available on Freenet which don't have to be found by searching through Freenet? While I realize an unencrypted list of files might defeat the purpose of the network, it was hard to find content when I used it.
      I genuinely like the model for p2p that Freenet represents, but definitely would need a concrete reson to switch over from BT.

  2. I wouldnt mind by macromegas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    if the conclusions of the article turn out to be true

    Breaking the asymmetrical bandwidth assumption. If P2P
    traffic continues to increase and legal complications are overridden,
    the P2P paradigm will bring dramatic changes in supply and
    demand in edge and access networks. Bit rates of many access
    links, in particular for DSL and cable modems, are currently provisioned
    asymmetrically with significantly lower upstream bandwidth.
    This provisioning was based on the expectation of users
    downloading much more data than they send upstream. The relevance
    of such technologies will be challenged and their market
    share will dwindle if alternative broadband technologies can offer
    comparable upstream and downstream performance.
    The effect of P2P could propagate from the access points upward
    the network hierarchy to Tier 2 and even Tier 1 ISPs creating
    the need for more peering among ISPs. Current practices
    require balanced bidirectional load among peers10, a stipulation

    easier to achieve with symmetric link utilizations as the
    norm. There is no doubt that the P2P paradigm will change Internet
    engineering as we know it today. Given the observed trends,
    the only remaining question is when, not if.

    as I can not find anyone whod be willing to give me a symetrical here in worlds end; maybe thatll finally change.

    --
    Life has become the ideology of its absence - T.W. Adorno
  3. How to infringe & NOT get caught. An 'experime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Posting anonymously for obvious reasons but here is a simple thought experiment. Feel free to punch all sorts of holes in my argument. My aim is to expose the futility in regulating P2P or cracking down on infringers if you can't do that legally. If the content cartel want to put P2P out of business, make the media too attractive and too cheap to bother stealing on P2P.

    Anyway, here is the proces:

    1) Take copyrighted-song.mp3 and XOR it with copyrighted-song.mp3-prndbits.bin of the same size to get prndbits.bin-copyrighted-song.mp3

    2) Share both files BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME MACHINE! In fact, with this approach, the files could be posted on the World Wide Web in an analagous fashion.

    3) After time, both files are on the P2P network of your choice. You need both to get copyrighted-song.mp3 back and yet mere non simultaneous possession of either of the two files on a machine that 'form' the song is not (seemingly) illegal. If the labels come after you for sharing such a file, tell them to sod off as the file in question is worthless without the other file which you did not share at the same time, did you?

    The only way the content cartel can get the last word in is to simply make encryption illegal worldwide except for authorized parties.

    That means no more legal use of such encryption software like PGP, GPG, CipherSaber, PCP, and the like by the average Internet user.

    Just envison the backlash such a move would cause....

  4. stealthier by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am the lead coder of a BitTorrent client. A few months back I began to receive reports of ISPs either blocking or severely throttling the upstream (to a point where the protocol became non-functional) of BitTorrent connections. As a result, I modified my codebase to by default choose a server port randomly, rather than within the default BitTorrent port range.

    Lately, I've gotten more reports indicating that these ISPs that have been blocking BitTorrent have been using more sophisticated methods of detecting the protocol, by apparently sniffing the initial protocol handshake.

    My response was this letter. The next iteration of the BitTorrent protocol is already being planned, and if this sort of behavior spreads, the new protocol's handshake will be made nearly impossible to sniff out. Yes, it's true BitTorrent is being misused for trading pirated content, but it's also being used for good purposes, such as publishing Linux distros, and in some cases it is practically impossible to obtain content without doing so via BitTorrent.

    This will of course make it difficult to meter how much network traffic is being used by BitTorrent, or to throttle it moderately, but the purpose of BitTorrent is to distribute content, and all other concerns come second.