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Battery-powered Cigarettes?

Roland Piquepaille writes "According to Ananova, a Swiss company has developed a totally new type of smoke-free cigarette. You will be able to use it in non-smoking restaurants, and even in airplanes -- if you care for nicotine. But the PRAVDA, from Russia, adds that the product is far from perfect. It looks like a cigarette, it's used as a cigarette, but it's not a cigarette at all. Each pseudo-cigarette consists of a replaceable 'filter' containing the nicotine, and a heating element working on a battery, recharged by the 'pack' of cigarettes. The company, NicStic, says its product is good for smokers because it doesn't contain any tar, and for non-smokers, because there is obviously not passive smoking effect. It plans to introduce the product in Germany in about a year for a price similar as normal cigarettes. This overview contains more details about this pseudo-cigarette which might be sold in the U.S. in the near future."

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  1. uhh... by patrick.whitlock · · Score: 5, Informative

    don't they already have a nic. inhaler? called nicotrol, if im not mistaken

  2. Old news... by dfn_deux · · Score: 5, Informative

    RJ Reynolds developed a system similar to this in the late 80's and was shot down by the FDA. It seems that the FDA considered this a drug and drug delivery device and not a cigarette. Which of course means lots and lots and lots of expensive "drug" testing. However there is a japanese company that makes an electrical heating element device for normal cigarettes which supposedly "vaporizes" the nicotine for inhaltion without smoke, I wish I had a link. IIRC there was some mention of this in a PBS special many years back called "the search for a safe cigarette"...

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    1. Re:Old news... by JimBobJoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      The smokeless Premier cigarette played a small part in the movie Barbarians at the Gate in which James Garner plays wily, crude RJR CEO F. Scott Johnson, who said I think has some of the most priceless movie quotes ever.

      At the beginning of the film, Johnson first tries the premier, which was receiving poor reviews and which was described as "tastes like shit, smells like a fart." When Johnson noted that the draw on the cigarette was wrong (difficult) and the RJR scientist said that was the "hernia effect" Johnson said something like "that's fucking great! Buy Premier cigarettes, they'll rip your balls off!"

      A highly recommend movie.

  3. Already Done by clinko · · Score: 2, Informative

    Already Done, part of the reason Nabisco/RJR collapsed in the 80's

    Google
    Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco

  4. I'll say this anonymously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    My mother has lung cancer and unlike other cancers, remission is very hard thing. She will never be cured. She has a 50% chance to live 5 years.
    She smoked for 30 years, usually a pack or two a day.

    You smoke, you die.

    Don't smoke.

    1. Re:I'll say this anonymously by geomon · · Score: 4, Informative

      You smoke, you die.

      Don't smoke.....


      You still die.

      It is just a matter of time and place.

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  5. Eclipse by Takehiko · · Score: 2, Informative

    R.J. Reynolds tried this back in 1996 with a product called Eclipse.

    http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9606/03/cigarette/

  6. This was done in 1988. by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 3, Informative
    Called the Premeir, by RJ Reynolds.

    http://www.fact-index.com/p/pr/premier_cigarette.h tml

    It failed badly. For one, consumers didn't like it. Two, it was deemed a drug delivery system and not a cigarette. That not only complicated sales from a legal distribution POV, but it meant the tobacco companies were admitting that nicotine was addictive and that they were addicting their clients, thus opening them up for lawsuits.

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  7. Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Informative

    > You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them. Please stop.

    Bullshit.

    1. Re:Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by dlakelan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bullshit Bullshit

      There is good scientific evidence that secondhand smoke exposure increases the risk of heart attack in the general population.

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    2. Re:Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by gpinzone · · Score: 1, Informative

      To whatever morons labeled the parent as flamebait and troll, "Bullshit" is the name of a TV show on Showtime. The link points to the episode description on Showtime's website. Apparently, Showtime is blocking access from outside the USA. Sad. Here's another link with some facts: http://www.davehitt.com/facts/

    3. Re:Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by gmack · · Score: 1, Informative

      No .. we can't.

      I can tell you that cigarette smoke makes me very sick as I am asthmatic. I go out of my way to avoid places I know there will be a lot of smokers but that doesn't help when smokers wander or the wind changes direction.

      I'm hoping this product takes off. Personally I don't care if smokers want to harm themselves with that stuff.. *I* just don't want to have to be affected by *their* choices.

      My need to breath trumps your freedom to harm yourself.

  8. Re:Still not a safe cigarette by fubar1971 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been so far impossible to eliminate them all.

    That is why they completely elimanated the tobacco. RTFA next time before you post!!

  9. Re:Still not a safe cigarette by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been a while, but if I recall correctly, the last time I heard a study on it, it turned out that Marijuana smoke is much harder on your lungs than a comparable amount of cigarette smoke. However, habitual users of Marijuana don't inhale anywhere near the same amount of smoke per day that a cigarette smoker gets. So I'd say that if you're addicted to both then you're pretty well boned.

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  10. Quit smoking! It stinks! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cigarettes STINK...
    People that smoke, STINK..
    I smoked 3 packs a day, full tilt, until the day I quit, Dec. 26, 1998..

    I smoked from the time I was 14 until I quit at 37.

    So, I'm fully qualified to BITCH at people about smoking.

    Nicotine is a poison. They used to (and may still) put it in Black Flag roach poison.
    Look it up if you don't believe me.

    And the stench is unbearable. I have several friends that smoke and when they bring their computers over for me to work on I have to leave them plugged in and running in my garage for at least two days to get the stench out of them before bringing them inside. ALL of their stuff is PISS yellow, keyboards, mice, monitors all gunked up and sticky.
    Yuck!..

    One guy just brought me his computer because the power supply burned out. Why? Smoke. The nicotine gunked up the cooling fan in the power supply so badly that it quit spinning and the power supply burned up. He's lucky, wait until the fan on his CPU does the same thing.

    The inside of his computer is DISGUSTINGLY filthy. I hate to even touch it it's so nasty.

    And when I go to any of my smoking friends houses, I have to take my clothes of in the garage and drop them straight into the washer or they will make my house stink. I have to take a shower right away after I get home, it makes my hair stink, everything. And that's just from being in the house where they smoke, and they don't smoke while I'm there!

    When they pull out some cigarettes I tell them "Oh, time for a suicide stink stick eh?"

    And for those that dip or chew tobacco, ever seen someone with mouth cancer? It's enough to make you vomit. The sight is worse than anything you would see in a horror movie.

    I hate going to the store where people throw their stinking butts on the ground, the entrance at the stores stink, it's like walking through a gas chamber just trying to get into the store..

    I think they should make tobacco totally illegal, the use, sale, growth, purchase, etc.. Get caught using tobacco, go to jail, felony, 1 year 1st offense.
    Get caught selling tobacco, charge, attempted murder, penalty, DEATH. 1st offense..

  11. Re:Quit smoking! It stinks! by geomon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every word of the parent is true.

    I smoked an average of one pack a day from age 11 until February 10, 2002.

    My children visit their grandmother's house and I wash their clothes IMMEDIATELY after then come home. I can smell tobacco smoke on them in a strong breeze. I am constantly bothering my mom about quitting.

    There is nothing good than can be said about smoking that can counter the bad shit that can be said about smoking.

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  12. Depends on what properities you mean by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    The smoke is bad for you, as all smoke is. However you generally inhale much less of it than with cigarettes. I mean it's not uncommon to see someone smoke 2+ packs of cigs per day, but I don't know many potheads that smoke more than 10 joints a day.

    As for the active ingrediants (nicotine vs THC) it also depends on what you mean. THC is essentially non-toxic in terms of killing you, you'd be hard pressed to OD on it. Nicotine, on the other hand, is quite toxic. However obviously, in standard concentrations, THC has a more severe effect on the body, hence why you need to smoke less to feel good.

  13. Re:but by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative
    Take a candel and take a piece of metal say a knife. Put the knife over the flame where the smoke is coming from. Wait about 5 minutes and look at the tar on your knife.

    That's not tar, that's candle soot from unburned wax. Cigarettes do not deposit candle soot in your lungs. A better thing to have him do is cut open the filter after smoking the cigarette. Then again, that never stopped ME...

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  14. I'll raise you two... by sleepingsquirrel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit. But just for the record, I think smoking is a vile nasty habbit.

  15. Available today, here in the US: by scosol · · Score: 3, Informative

    At my local 7-11 even:

    Eclipse Cigarettes by RJ Reynolds

    You light it like a normal cigarette, but what you're actually lighting is a graphite rod that burns slowly and provides heat. Then then you inhale it heats up a packet of tobbaco which releases nicotine and water vapor but that's about it. (It works like a vaporizer)

    No smoke, just water vapor and a different taste, and all that sweet sweet nicotine! :)

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  16. Re:Smoking is actually nice... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yeah, nicotine isn't GOOD for you, but neither is alcohol and people still do that. At least this isn't nearly as bad as inhaling all that tar and smoke!

    I agree wholeheartedly--getting rid of the tar, particulates, and carcinogens produced by combustion definitely goes a long way towards harm reduction.

    On the other hand, it should be noted that moderate consumption of alcohol isn't bad for most people. There is significant epidemiological data that indicates consumption of up to about one to two drinks per day is harmless and possibly beneficial. This is mostly due to reduced risk of cardiovascular problems, but moderate alcohol consumption is also associated with a reduced risk of some neurodegenerative disorders like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. Consumption to excess, or doing stupid things after drinking (driving, swimming, becoming President) obviously are demonstrably bad for your health.

    To my knowledge, there aren't any similar large-scale studies on the consumption of pure nicotine (in the absence of tobacco smoke). I'd be interested to know if long-term consumption of nicotine alone (again, in moderate doses) has any health effects, negative or positive.

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  17. A democratic republic... by WebCowboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...is a style of government. Democracy is a process used by government. It seems to me that they are related but not the same thing. Isn't your statement kind of like saying "an orange is not a plant, it is a fruit"?

    Doesn't democracy play an important role in a democratic republic? In my observation the US holds elections on every damn thing to do with government. Today, you are electing the President, congressmen, sentaors, judges, public commissioners, voting on propositions, etc etc etc.

    Seems to me that the system was at least INTENDED to govern by majority opinion.

  18. Re:It depends by Pleione · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suggest that you don't go outside or drive then. If you work in a bar, that is the choice you have made. People don't go to bars to get healthy. Don't like it, quit and find another job.

  19. Re:Smoking is actually nice... by F13 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yeah, nicotine isn't GOOD for you, but neither is alcohol and people still do that

    But alcohol can be good for you.

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