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FreeBSD 5.3 Released

cpugeniusmv writes "FreeBSD 5.3 has been released! This release marks a milestone in the FreeBSD 5.x series and the beginning of the 5-STABLE branch of releases. For a complete list of new features and known problems, please see the release notes and errata list. Bittorrent Download."

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  1. Doesn't Matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This is a completely irrelevant milestone. DragonflyBSD is quite close to being production ready, and is already competing against FreeBSD in terms of stability and maintainability.

    In five years, either FreeBSD will have adopted DragonflyBSD's model, or nobody will be using FreeBSD.

  2. unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...we have just learned that it is dead-born.

  3. Future FreeBSD releases by jihadi_kerry · · Score: -1, Troll

    I've been concerned lately with the freebsd release cycle...fbsd has been working on a stable 5 relase for over 2 years now. I was **really** glad to see the following mail from Scott Long, an freebsd core developer, regarding a new release engineering cycle for FBSD 6 and beyond. Check it out:

    All,

    FreeBSD 5.3 is about to be announced this weekend and will signal the
    true kick-off of the 5-STABLE and 6-CURRENT series. We are very excited
    about this, both because 5.3 is a good release, and because 6.0 will
    give us a chance to, erm, redeem ourselves and our development process
    =-)

    5.x was a tremendous undertaking. SMPng, KSE, UFS2, background fsck,
    ULE, ACPI, etc, etc, etc were all incredible tasks. Given that many of
    these things were developed and managed by unpaid volunteers, the fact
    that we made it to 5-STABLE at all is quite impressive and says a lot
    about the quality and determination of all of our developers and users.
    However, 4 years was quite a long time to work on it. While 4.x
    remained a good work-horse, it suffered from not having needed features
    and hardware support. 5.x suffered at the same time from having too
    much ambition but not enough developers to efficiently carry it through.

    By the middle of 2002 is was very apparent that we needed to start
    focusing on getting 5.0 released. Unfortunately, we fell into the trap
    of wanting to finish more features in order to feel good about 5.x. We
    kept on ignoring the fact that 5.x already had a lot of good and needed
    features, and that the number one goal needed to be to get it stabilized
    and turned into 5-STABLE. Instead we drew up a road map document that
    dictated releases based on features rather than on stability and, even
    more importantly, timeliness.

    It is also important to consider the injustices of slashdot's editors. This topic
    can be researched more on anti-slash
    There has been quite a bit of discussion about this over the past week
    by the developer community. The proposal that I and Poul-Henning have
    set forth is to stop gating releases, both major and minor, or features,
    and instead gate them on a schedule that is both reasonable and timely.
    New -STABLE branched will be made on a calendar-based time line, and
    point releases on those branches will be made at regular intervals. We
    are still debating the exact time line, but it will fall somewhere
    between doing a new -STABLE branch every 12-18 months, and doing point
    releases every 4-6 months.

    While as engineers we all tend to hate timelines, this does have a lot
    of positive aspects. First, it increases the predictability of the
    development both for our users and for our developers. Users can plan
    effectively for upgrades and testing/validation knowing that there will
    be major and minor releases at fixed times of the year. Developers can
    judge when to start new projects and when to focus on bug-fixing because
    there will no longer be the temptation to delay a release by a month in
    order to slide 'one more thing' in. This is not unlike most commercial
    OS vendors, and we've received a _LOT_ of feedback that this method of
    planning is desperately needed.

    Second, it means that development efforts for major features will
    continue to shift out of CVS and into Perforce. This already happens
    quite a bit, so it's not as radical of a change as it seems. CVS HEAD
    will remain the 'experimental' development branch, but large items will
    not be brought into it until they are functionally complete and
    integrated. HEAD may still get unstable from time to time, but it
    hopefully won't turn into the collision of lots of half-done
    experimental things like it has in the recent past. It also means that
    if a major feature isn't done in time for a -STABLE branch-point that it
    can continue to be developed outside of the CVS tree and be made ready
    for the next scheduled branch po

    1. Re:Future FreeBSD releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      To: Bill Joy, Creator of *BSD

      November 6, 2004

      Dear Mr. Secretary:

      I am submitting my resignation from the list of living operating systems (effective immediately) because I cannot in good conscience compete with Linux.

      I have failed:

      --To support SMP

      --To generate media attention

      --To spawn a professionally managed distribution

      --To innovate

      --To keep up with technology innovations

      --To stop the de-evolution of my developers into spatting dilitantes

      --To be relevant.

      Throughout the globe *BSD is becoming associated with in-fighting and sloppy coding. My disregard for views of other operating systems, borne out by my neglect of technical competence, is giving birth to an anti-BSD century.

      I joined the operating system world because I love technology. Respectfully, Mr. Secretary, I am now bringing this calling to a close, with a heavy heart but for the same reason that I embraced it.

      Sincerely,

      *BSD
      Dead Operating System

  4. Re:Excellent OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    English is an excellent language if you understand grammar and know the different between the word that refers to something that belongs to you ("your") and the contraction of "you are" ("you're"). Just look at the plethora of literature written in the past 300 years, which is pretty convincing. I say kudos to English and its proper use, and I hope Matt will be trying it. ~troll

  5. More Proof... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    That BSD is dying and Linux is truly the modern progressive OS..

  6. Re:FreeBSD 5.0 for Alpha? by setagllib · · Score: 0, Troll

    Easy there, it might not be that solid. They haven't done much testing outside of x86 and even that is flaky and/or slow for a lot of hardware (including hardware every machine has).

    Unless FreeBSD offers something for Alpha that NetBSD and Linux don't and you absolutely must have it, you know where to turn.

    --
    Sam ty sig.
  7. Re:FreeBSD, dead at 5.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    OSX is NOT FreeBSD. In fact it's not even UNIX.

  8. Re:The torrent link is not working by Ricin · · Score: -1, Troll

    "BitTorrent is an _excellent_ tool"

    Yeah but give me good ol ftp any day :)

  9. Some *BSD jokes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    1) Why did the BSD user cross the road? He wanted to make sure that truck really did run him over.

    2) Why did the BSD user attend a LUG meeting? He got sick of the cold nights meeting up at the local cemetery.

    3) What did one BSD user say to another BSD user? Nothing, the undead can't speak.

    4) How many BSD users does it take to change a light bulb? It doesn't really matter because the first user will convince the rest of them that the old bulb is still working.

  10. Re:slashdot random encounter table (roll 1d6) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    7. ???
    8. Muh dick!!

  11. Who cares about it anyway by KZigurs · · Score: -1, Troll

    BSD IS dying, take a look at Netcraft.

  12. Re:Who still uses *BSD...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    I use *BSD, you fucking troll.

    Why?

    1. I can't/don't want to pay out the nose for a pretty plastic box.

    2. Most Apple users are as obnoxious as the following:

    a. Vegans
    b. Vegetarians
    c. Libertarians
    d. People who choose not to own televisions, and want to make sure you know that they don't
    e. Any combination of the above.

    3. I am better than you.

  13. Re:FreeBSD uses gcc 2.4.2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Scott, why is it that you never never manage to make a decent release? Murray was a much better releng engineer than you've been. And, since you seem to like motorbikes as well : FUCK YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!

    --
    HawkinsOS, kicking Smorgrav in the ass since 2004.