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Examining Mac OS X 10.4's Spotlight

Ton writes "Apple has published a discussion of Spotlight, the radical systemwide search technology that will be part of Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger'. The really interesting part is that metadata will be playing a big role in Spotlight while just a few years ago people were afraid metadata in Mac OS X was going the way of the dodo."

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  1. Re:What's so special about searching by thulsey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Try to pretend that you're managing 2 or 3 or more major projects that can change or be passed along to someone else every few months with mails, im's, files, reports you don't look at, media submitted by other people in different countries, to-do lists and other project management data...

    Now imagine someone asks you, the project manager (or just the last person still around) on a project from 3 years ago, what the initial proposal from that guy in japan who did the Flash files was versus what we paid him and what the VP's said about that....

    People *will* have copies of these files still floating around *somewhere* in e-mail or im history, at least. You may not, I may not, but that's where this will come in handy.

    A few years ago, hd space was not large enough to think that you'd keep all that data around, but gmail's new 1Gb e-mail storage just showcases the lack of a need to dump all that crap off your media if you can just organize it well, and who needs that when you can keyword search, anyway?

  2. Re:Radical by Meredeth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MetaData is not new. Its not radical. But MS aparently can't make it work. So Apple gets to use it first, 5 percent of the computer population go wow! 95 percent ask why can't we have this, and Longhorn SP1 will get it and proclaim it as a great new radical technology.

  3. Re:Radical by the+quick+brown+fox · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Don't get me wrong, Apple does cool stuff but their strongsuit is marketing, not "invention".

    You've got to give them credit for product design as well. Nobody makes more desirable-looking software and hardware. Is it any wonder that Apple's fiercest supporters are graphic designers?

  4. Re:Radical by BlowChunx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    QuickTime player may not have been ground breaking, but the entirety of the framework was.

    Name one other multimedia framework that has been around as long as Quicktime. And don't mention Video for Windows...I'll take your response off the air.

  5. Re:Sounds like Windows, actually by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The difference? Spotlight works - it does find data in a large variety of files and emails, and my bet is that it won't doesn't eat up the huge amount of resources that you say Windows does.

    Filesystem metadata is great, but "instantly" updated search indexes sounds like a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.

    Doesn't exist *for you* perhaps. Perhaps you don't have a lots of user data, or you have taken time to sort it into useful folders. I'd say it's about as useful as the incremental seach in iTunes is. Sure I could remember what artist did a track, and access a track by scrolling down to that artist, then finding the track. Or I could scroll down the list of thousands of track names, remembering my alphabet ordering, and locate the track that way. Assuming I've remembered the exact wording of track name. But I've always found it easier to type whatever word comes to mind first from artist or track into the search box.

    And so it is with documents. Even if I do remember the file name and folder that a particular piece of information is stored in, I still need to navigate there. Most times it will be quicker just to type in whatever it is you remember about the data you want into a search box - even if you know where the data is stored.