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US Ready to put Weapons in Space

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian reports "America has begun preparing its next military objective - space. Documents reveal that the US Air Force has for the first time adopted a doctrine to establish 'space superiority'." If this goes ahead, it will be in violation of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty which forbids the militarization of space."

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  1. This does not violate the treaty by Vengeance · · Score: 4, Informative

    Article IV of the treaty follows:

    States Parties to the Treaty undertake not to place in orbit around the Earth any objects carrying nuclear weapons or any other kinds of weapons of mass destruction, install such weapons on celestial bodies, or station such weapons in outer space in any other manner.

    The Moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military maneuvers on celestial bodies shall be forbidden. The use of military personnel for scientific research or for any other peaceful purposes shall not be prohibited. The use of any equipment or facility necessary for peaceful exploration of the Moon and other celestial bodies shall also not be prohibited.


    Note: No nukes, no 'WMDs' in orbit, and no weapons on pre-existing celestial bodies. Sticking more conventional arms into orbit is A-OK by this agreement.

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  2. Summary == incorrect by Vengeance · · Score: 4, Informative

    As is so often the case, the summary gets the facts wrong.

    The treaty does NOT forbid the militarization of space. It forbids placement of weapons on celestial bodies, and it forbids nuclear and other 'WMD's from being placed in space.

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  3. For good information by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    on space weapons and why they might not be a good idea see the union of concerned scientist's page on space weapons.

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  4. Re:Ah yes, the Guardian by furball · · Score: 4, Informative
    On Election Day, we learned just how much the British meddling hurt the Democrats. In 2000, Al Gore had won Clark County by 324 votes; his margin would have been larger absent Ralph Nader's 1,347 votes the same day. But this year, Clark County threw itself into electoral reverse. Of the 115 Ohio counties that Al Gore won in 2000, John Kerry won every single one -- with the conspicuous exception of Clark, which went to Bush this year by 1,620 votes.


    The source is OpinionJournal's Political Diary. Thanks for helping George Bush. I'm sure he'll thank you.
  5. Re:Oh, we've violating at treaty! Heavens! by eclectic4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Oh, it's in violation of a treaty? I'm sure the Bush Administration will back off immediately once they find that out given their consistant respect for international law and unwavering dedication to peace in our time."

    No kidding. Let's see...

    Treaties revoked by George W. Bush.

    The biodiversity Treaty

    The Geneva Conventions

    The Forest Protection Treaty

    The Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty

    The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty

    1972 Anti-Ballistic Missle Treaty

    The 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention

    The 1979 UN Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination agains Women

    The UN International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

    The Chemical Weapons Convention

    The International Criminal Court (Nicaragua anyone?)

    We rule by force, and screw anyone who tries to tell us differenet. It's the new American paradigm, and it's beyond ludicrous. PreVENTIVE war, screw treaties and international law, screw any moral high ground we may have had in the past. Welcome to our nightmare...

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  6. This has long been on the table (or under it) by I'm+Spartacus! · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Project for the New American Century - a neoconservative thinktank established in the '90s - published a document in 2000 entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses" which advocates preemption with an emphasis on the militarization of space. You can read it here.

    The people who've signed off at the bottom of this madness are the principle figures in George W. Bush's administration: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et. al. as shown on this page.

    Get ready world! What you've seen thus far is only the beginning.

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