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Skype Founder Interviewed On Engadget

prostoalex writes "Niklas Zennström, the ever-elusive CEO of Skype, is interviewed by Engadget. Turns out Skype currently has more than 13 mln users in 200+ countries. The interview also discusses the future of Skype and VOIP applications in general."

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  1. What about 911? by PMJ2kx · · Score: 1, Insightful

    At home, I still have a regular phone line because I sometimes need to send faxes. At the office, we actually don't have a land phone line. We use Skype mostly, and mobile phones to receive calls from people not on Skype.

    What about 911? How do you dial that without a landline?

  2. What I dont get... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, this lil program is closed-source but works with little lag, and decent sound.

    We know that there's nothing special about the audio, it's known.
    We know that there's nothing different about the latency of the lines (software cant change network hardware on telco side ;P )

    Can somebody explain why we couldnt do something like this by using UDP packets over a tunnel? GnomeMeeting should provide the rest..

    TCP's the killer here. Drop it and you have less lag (no negotiate).

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    1. Re:What I dont get... by Kristoffer+Lunden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the problem isn't that these guys have done something special, they really haven't, and yes there are lots of other possible solutions, even if I don't want to lock myself into GnomeMeeting. There are open standards, and open protocols, and knowledge, and just about everything you could think of. And they work, and they've been around for some time.

      But.

      The difference is that these guys are doing it. Talking about it is all well and fine, but noone is actually doing anything to seriously match them. Until you step up to the plate and take a swing yourself, using the open standards and protocols we want, you do like the rest of us and shut the hell up - not really directed at parent, but a more general statement.

      There is a lot of talk, and nothing done. Maybe, just maybe, *that's* why the evil, evil proprietry products win? Not because they are better, or profitable, or anything like that - but because someone shut his trap and got to work instead. Oh, and when that happens in the OSS world, you get stuff like Firefox and Apache instead of IE and ISS. So, what are you waiting for?

      (No, I'm not using Skype myself. I don't need it, and I'm still a bit wary because of the Kazaa history, although people do say that these particular guys weren't responsible.)

  3. Would you trust this guy? by Manip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know we are supposed to forgive and forget but I will not trust this corp all that quickly considering how spywared up Kazaa was/is.

    It is not so much about what Skype is now but what Skype might become, the company have shown us how much value they place on ethics and treating their customers with respect..

    1. Re:Would you trust this guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The invented fasttrack, not Kazaa. Thats like blaming the car companies for people drinking and driving. They sold their idea, then end purchaser choose what to do with it -- not them. Come on, we've been through this before.

  4. Use a mobile phone, go next door by anti-NAT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This "911" / emergency call issue is regularly rolled out as a "problem" with VoIP, due to the concern about the perceived lack of reliablity of IP based networks. While it is legitimate to address it, I don't think it is the issue it is made out to be.

    If you consider what life was like 20 years ago, each house only had one land line, and all the land lines in the neighbourhood were attached to the same exchange. From the individual end user's point of view, there was no redundancy at all. If your land line failed, you couldn't go next door to use your neighbour's phone in an emergency, as their's was dead too. All you could do was jump in your car and go to the hospital, police station or firehouse.

    Today, not only do we still have traditional land lines, we also have cell / mobile phones, and we still have cars. If we add VoIP into the mix, in sum, we have significantly more available "emergency communcations" resources as individuals than we did 20 years ago. That's why I don't think "911" / emergency call services is the issue it is made out to be when thinking about deploying VoIP.

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    The Internet's nature is peer to peer - 20050301_cs_profs.pdf
  5. I'd use Skype if by gilgongo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They (or somebody) sold a cordless handset.

    On their shop they sell a "CyberPhone":

    "Plugged into the USB port of your PC / laptop, you can chat using the Cyberphone just as you would on a normal telephone. "

    Cool. But it still means I have to be at my PC to make/receive calls.

    Hey Skype: sell cordless CyberPhones and you're on!

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    1. Re:I'd use Skype if by jallison · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They (or somebody) sold a cordless handset.

      I agree. The Skype software is fine, and it works well. But I don't want to be tethered to my computer when I make a phone call. I know there are wireless headsets out there, but what sort of range do they have? And how well do they handle the rest of the stuff flying through the air in a typical home (802.11, 900Mhz phones, 2.4Ghz phones, microwave ovens, etc.)?

  6. Re:Comments on skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Same thing happened to me. I'm from the US and work in Peru. I was able to purchase time in August and September and have now been refused and locked out of my account. I understand the need to screen out fraud, but they should realize their best customers for Skypeout, which is where the revenues come from, are going to be people who are in a foreign country and have parents, children, and close relatives back home to communicate with. They would have had at least 25 euros a month just from me. Now I've had to go back to pc2phone from iconnecthere.com. The sound quality isn't as good, but at least my money is good for them and they don't label me as a crook.

  7. Gnomemeeting does use UDP, by anti-NAT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and if you're referring to using UDP over tunnels to get around the problems NAT causes, look up "NAT traversal" in google. It is being introduced to both IPsec and SIP.

    Skype doesn't do anything special, other than lock its "customers" into a proprietory VoIP network.

    I think skype will kill itself.

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    The Internet's nature is peer to peer - 20050301_cs_profs.pdf
    1. Re:Gnomemeeting does use UDP, by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lock its "customers" into a proprietory VoIP network.

      Why does it look like everyone can't abide the concept of a software company making money - and this one on the service not the software, no less?

      The majority of the innovations in the software world come from people paid to innovate, or people figuring out how to make money innovating. I love open-source software as much as the next guy, but face it, most OSS is a copy of existing software: Linux, GIMP, Mozilla (from Mosaic), OpenOffice.org, etc. There is a purpose for proprietary software; even if you don't believe in it, that's no grounds to attack them just for being proprietary.

      Skype may have faults, but that's not (necessarily) a symptom of malicious intent.

    2. Re:Gnomemeeting does use UDP, by Beave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll give you a couple of clues.. What if I want to use my Cisco 7940 (used in a lot of offices) with Skype. Oh, I can't. Welp, maybe I can use it with the Asterisk PBX (... for that fact, insert you favorite model PBX..) Oh wait, you can't. Unless you've been in a freaking hole, there are plenty of _working_ (and some crappy) VoIP providers besides Skype (Vonage/Packet8/Nuphone) that use standard VoIP Protocols (IAX2/SIP). It's not just about Linux and open source. Locking into a protocol limits what you can do.

  8. Please, Skype by Trejkaz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just give us the Palm OS port already.

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  9. Re:The Ericsson exchanges have redundancy built in by anti-NAT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I figured as much, however, I think this issue really is best judged from the individual's point of view, as they are the ones "suffering" from the emergency. In the past, they were only had the option of relying on a single phone line, or using their car. Now there are multiple, alternative communications channels available to them in an emergency.

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    The Internet's nature is peer to peer - 20050301_cs_profs.pdf
  10. Would it state... by dark-br · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Yes? If so it's hardly "spyware" in the sense of "something that is running without you knowing about and doing nasty stuff". ;)

  11. not a troll: what's the big deal? by levl289 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I'm not quite sure what the big deal is here.

    I mean, I was using VocalTec's Internet Phone in '96, and really, given todays general ample bandwidth, I don't understand why Skype is so big. I've seen Fortune articles on it, and this guys name used with some sort of business-man's reverence.

    Once you get past the novelty of talking to random people by voice over the Internet, the novelty wears off, and all you've got is a VOIP that you can't actually use real phone with (granted, the end party can).

    I have a Vonage line at home, and that form of VOIP seems all that much more interesting, if only because they've bridged the software/hardware gap. Is this really that much different from video chat, other than the fact that you can call to a MeatSpace phone (or is that the Big Deal?)?

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    A: I think it's a good idea.
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  12. This is about open standards, not open software, by anti-NAT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or would you prefer to only be able to use Sony batteries in your Sony devices, Ford petrol (gasoline) in your Ford car, etc.

    I'm certainly pro-open source, however, I think open standards are far, far more important than the open / closed source issue. If the best tool for the job is closed source, that's fine. I use closed source Adobe Acrobat under Linux rather than xpdf, as I find it better and quicker to use. I would abandon Adobe Acrobat if Adobe closed the PDF specification though, as the open specs of PDF are more important to me than the Adobe Acrobat software itself.

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    The Internet's nature is peer to peer - 20050301_cs_profs.pdf
  13. IM The Police! by code_monkey_steve · · Score: 2, Insightful
    While I don't think this issue will (or should) hinder the adoption of VoIP, it does bring up a good point: Why can't you email the police? Or report an emergency online? Why not a whole RFC for an emergency distress protocol, using hard-crypto for authentication, that can run over any IP medium (mail, IM, HTTP, etc)?

    For that matter, is there any reason to restrict it to the "standard" authorities? What about some sort of broadcast topology, so that someone can send their identity, location, and situation to any number of clients -- police agencies, fire stations, hospitals, Coast Guard -- who can watch for emergency traffic within their geographical region.

    In short, we need some sort of standardized, generic method for issuing a distress call over IP. Morse code has had SOS for almost a century now, yet IP has no equivalent (so far as I know).