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Mandrakelinux 10.1 Out For PPC
joestar writes "Less than two weeks after the release of Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official for x86, Mandrakelinux 10.1 for PPC has been released! The interesting news is that this version of Mandrakelinux is now a community-driven project. This means that Mandrakesoft is not anymore behind the PPC port. Hardware requirements and release notes are available online at Mandrakelinux WiKi. Any volunteer for SPARC & Alpha?"
Does this kind of support extend to the RS/6000 or pSeries line? Not every PPC machine is a overchromed box or an upgraded Amiga, and there's some nice hardware that could use some more distribution support other than the quad digit priced varieties.
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Any contribution is good. Linux for PPC isn't as actively developed for x86, so this only helps the situation. Mandrakesoft probably just can't justify the money spent for PPC, so it's not worth it for them to pursue it.
Mac OSX doesn't run on all PowerPC based hardware though does it? Just a subset. So there's your answer right there.
But its slow, the gui can't do half of what KDE/Gnome can do, and all my apps are X11 apps so it doesn't really make sense to run an Xserver over the top of a GUI system and then put another one on top of that......
OSX is good, but only if you use it like a mac...
But its [sic] slow, the gui can't do half of what KDE/Gnome can do, and all my apps are X11 apps so it doesn't really make sense to run an Xserver over the top of a GUI system and then put another one on top of that...... OSX is good, but only if you use it like a mac...
If find Apple's X11 to be quite comparable with "native" varieties on PPC or x86. X11 used to be awful on a Mac until Apple got things goings. Similar story as with the Safari browser. I use production X11 apps on Linux and OS X, so I should be able to tell.
Granted, I would like to run KDE *with* Apple's X11, to have a more comparable environment with my Linux installation (indeed to ease the transition *away* from Linux).
Exactly, which leads to the question of why this is in the Mac section and not the Linux section. There can be no denying that the release of a Linux distribution is related to Linux, while the relevance of this to the Mac is quite tangental.
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It makes early g3 proc macs (blue g3, clear hood pre-imac, imacs, some ibooks) usable machine without using OS 9 - i personally chose to run yellow dog on my 700 mhz ibook because OS X was painfully choppy.
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I sort of agree on the OS 9 thing... Linux applications are still being developed, while software for OS 9 generally is not, especially in the case of modern web browsers. I personally like the classic Mac OS, and it's rather snappy on my machine, but the browser problem is the thing that just makes it less appealing.
Just because your system can't run OS X definitely does not mean it is useless.
I have used OS X plenty of times on older G3-based hardware [I run 10.3 on a 600Mhz snow iBook] and one of the biggest bottlenecks is RAM and video. You can speed up OS X on the iMacs by adding RAM and running in a 16-bit video mode, although this is kind of frustrating. With the B&W G3s, just pop in a bunch of RAM and a new video card. Viola! OS X lives!
Or of course you could by a new Mac. Ahhh, freedom of choice!
I apologise if this question has been asked a hojillion times already, but what's the advantage of Linux over MacOS X (not trolling here, honestly curious)?
Apple doesn't make the only PowerPC hardware. There are many others that don't run Mac OS X. For those there is a limited number of operating systems that will run on them.
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Third, and I don't think it's trivial: Choice. I don't care how good the software I'm using is, I want other options. Every time someone offers me a new option-- even if I'm not going to take advantage of that option-- I'm happy to have it.
When you're locked in to software and have no other options is when you're going to suffer abuse from the developers. Even if the developer that has you locked in doesn't take monopolistic actions, the project will usually turn stagnant and improvements and innovation will slow. Competition is a good force, and it only works when you have competing products.
If you're going to spend the money for a Mac you owe itself to yourself to use OS X. It has a superior gui (i'm not trolling!), there's absolutely no hardware compatibility program... <snip>
What if I want to spend the money for a Mac, but don't want to spend the money for a new version of OS X every year? My powerbook came with 10.2 (which is now not very well supported, e.g. latest Apple dev tools won't run on it, Fink doesn't really support it) and the cost of upgrading isn't worth it when I can run Linux (Gentoo) instead.
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For those of you interested you can also run KDE in os X. I got it kinda working a while back and plan to try again when i have more time. See how well its progressed in the last few months.
Here is a good place to start.
I was wondering if there was a way I could install linux on a kind of virtual hard disk, kind of like the way virtual pc works. I'd love to dive into linux and open source in general, but I don't want to have to worry about screwing up my system either. Re-partitioning is not an option because it would be far more work than I'm willing to put into it.
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