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BT to Offer Free Internet Calls

gnoos writes "The BBC is reporting that BT is to start offering customers free internet telephone calls if they sign up to broadband in December. The offer will be limited to the first 50,000 people who sign up and users will need to use BT's internet telephony software, known as BT Communicator"

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  1. and they lost most of their customer base here by DarkTempes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Minimum requirements -Microsoft Windows 98/Windows 2000/Windows Millennium/Windows XP operating system (XP recommended) -Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.01 or later not so sure about the latter, because i bet it just requires flash and so would work in firefox. but it probably doesn't work in linux since it specifies: Please note that BT Communicator is not Mac compatible. All in all, how many windows users want to use something possibly IE-based so that they can talk to hardlines and such for free?

  2. Re:Not to mobiles, though by gordo3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    no, but living next to the wrong building(my sister's apartment) doesn't make your cell phone almost useful. and for all my experience, land lines give the best and far and away most consistent reception to be had.

    Why can't people realize there are advantages and disadvantages to both types of phones. I will not make many important calls on my cell phone in certain areas(my dorm at my school for the last two years) because reception is just that bad at times. Its never at a dependable level. But that is what I have where I live so land lines are the best option. My friends in UF only have a cell phone because they are rarely in their apartment and reception is near 100% no matter where they are.

    Slowly though, cell phones are moving to replace most land line uses, but for now, cell phones aren't the end all answer for everyone out there.

  3. Re:Dont trust them. by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if you can't get cable and can only have ADSL, use Demon.

    I have found DSL to be much more reliable than (NTL) cable, although it is true that trusting BT to do the ISP side of things is a very bad idea (they seem just as clueless as NTL). I used to use Demon for my dialup, but when I switched to DSL a couple of years back their network was in pieces and was generally quite flakey so I moved to PlusNet who have done a excellent job of running a very stable DSL line. I think it's gone down a total of twice in 2 years - once was a very short outage caused by an equipment failure at PlusNet and the other was about 4 or 5 hours which was BT's fault (and also took out most of the DSL lines in the South-East of the UK).

    Admittedly I only use them for the connection, I run all the services (mail, DNS, etc) myself because I frankly don't trust any consumer ISPs to know as much as me about networking.

    I have also heard good things about Bogons if you want an ISP with a clue and they're aparantly happy to do almost anything with a DSL line (moving portable IP addresses onto it, multi-channel bonding, etc).

  4. BT will let me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... send UDP or RTP or RTSP packets through the Internet if I sign up ?

    I should bloody well hope so.

    I remember working at one company where we ordered a BT business ADSL line .... I had to phone them 3 times to get the password to access their ADSL router to start it up and endure sniggering adolescent tele-plonkers who seemed to think I was *mad* as a hatter for even trying to do it without using the free windows software (read browser page).

    And then we discovered BT blocked *every* incoming port to the ADSL router. Very useful that was.

    HOW-TO setup a soft-VPN system:
    1) rent ADSL service from ISP that know's the f*ck what it's doing
    2) connect penguin box
    3) install, configure, start service
    4) go for a cup of tea
    5) fire twat who ordered BT ADSL Busy-being-idiots Service.

    BT is an ISP?
    My arse.

  5. Re:BitTorrent? by reverius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "So our calls are happily sent across the country through random strangers?"

    Actually, that's true.

    Skype's NAT traversal works by using a non-firewalled 3rd party... which means (in real terms) anyone running Skype who is not firewalled is a candidate to act as a "server" for the two firewalled people talking. I assume these servers are chosen randomly among Skype users, or are those with the best bandwidth / least latency.

  6. Re:God Bless Flat Rates.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To characterise this move by BT as related to charge rates (&billing) on local loop phone calls is to miss the point.

    BT operate huge trunk routes AND have a mobile phone network to run as well. So they generate turnover from *all* segments of the market.

    It's been widely recognised that every major telco carrier has to move *all* their traffic to IP else they will go the way of the dinosaurs. Currently BT are running older digital voice switches along side new IP switches and in terms of capacity and future upgrade (to improve bandwidth, volume pricing etc), they need to reduce overheads and so will go completely IP (one day!).

    This is more market testing from BT. A proof of concept if you will.

    They're prob testing the QoS side of things and of course some IPvoice gateway stuff.

    And the faster they convert the better.
    If US telco's aren't doing this as well, expect to see closures in the future as newer smarter soft-switch enabled pure IP networks take over from older trad bells with decrepid digital voice switches that can't be maintained anymore.

  7. The most pointless thing i've ever seen. by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After the free period, the pricing is the same as your standard BT landline costs.

    To have BT Broadband you must have a BT Landline

    I have a walkabout phone for round the house so i can be in any room, in the garden, garage etc. But my PC is tied to the wall. Even if you had a laptop do you really want to lug that around?

    So I pay the same for a net call and get less 'features' than my landline. Sounds like a bargain!