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Greens and Libertarians Team Up to Demand Recount

cyberformer writes "The Ohio election rules state that any losing candidate can demand a manual recount. Today, David Cobb and Michael Badnarik, the predidential candidates for the Green and Libertarian parties, announced that they are joining forces to do just that. A manual recount is important because it will include every ballot cast, whereas the first count only includes ballots that can be read by machine. It could even tip the state (and thus the election) from Bush to Kerry."

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  1. Re: by nmec · · Score: 5, Funny
    It could even tip the state (and thus the election) from Bush to Kerry."
    It could but I'll eat my tinfoil hat if it does
  2. Re:What if Kerry won? by whoda · · Score: 5, Informative

    The electoral college doesn't meet to vote until December 13th this year.
    It's not officially over until they have voted. The results of that vote aren't unsealed and counted until January 6th.

    Conceding elections is just a nice way of saying, I won't personally oppose you any more.

    If the outcome changes thru some other process and the electoral college votes Kerry into the Presidency, that's it, Bush wouldn't have to concede anything.

  3. Re:What they oughtta do by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    stop running for president, and help the Democratic campaign.

    Why? I would never have voted for Kerry. I might have voted for Badnarik (too young to be eligible). The Democratic philosophy is as different from the Libertarian one as it is from the Republican -- so much so that I find myself more or less half-libertarian and half-Republican, but nowhere near Democratic.

    You may as well say they should help the Republican campaign; the two seem to me ideologically closer, Bush himself notwithstanding.

  4. Re:WHERE CAN I DONATE?? by Strike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahahahahahaha, I know you're not trying to do anything in the "real world" with slashdot poll results, are you?

    Drunken Jackass indeed.

  5. Nader is also asking for a recount by Caseyscrib · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Independent Ralph Nader is also asking for a recount in Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, and North Carolina. Kerry won NH, Bush won the rest. Polls had Kerry ahead by 10%, but he won only by 1%. I'd like to see a recount too, because we use those optical scan ballots that have been in controversy lately.

  6. Kerry? pshaw! by BortQ · · Score: 5, Funny
    Screw Kerry, I am hoping that this tips the election in favor of Badnarik!

    Don't give up hope yet. Go Libertarians!!

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  7. Mod Parent up: New Hampshire Recount by Noksagt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The New Hampshire recount will really be the most interesting one. They used the Diebold machines, there was a large difference in the exit polls & the actual votes, and Kerry already won it (so right-wingers won't object to it on partisan grounds). Moderates and all concerned about evoting should watch that state closely. Partisans should also watch it, as it could be the first domino for the states where the outcome may actually change things. If anyone contests the New Hampshire recount, quietly chuckle that they don't care about voting & just care about their man. Kerry fans might protest because he did win & Bush fans might object in anticipation of those other states.

  8. Good reason for a recount by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should the votes be recounted because the Libertarians or Greens think they may win? No.

    Should the votes be recounted because Kerry may have won, and not Bush? Er, I doubt it, but maybe.

    Should the votes be recounted as a check on how well the new computerized systems tallied the votes? Definitely.

  9. But I almost have this conciliatory poem down! by artifex2004 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The election is over, the results are now known.
    The will of the people has clearly been shown.
    We should show by our thoughts, our words and our deeds
    That unity is just what our country needs.
    Let's all get together. Let bitterness pass.
    I'll hug your elephant.
    You kiss my ass.


    From here.
  10. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who needs math when you've got Jesus?

  11. Re:Makes no difference by mwlewis · · Score: 5, Informative
    But, you know who the person with the second largest number of ballots cast for him is? Kerry. That means that Bush had the largest number of votes cast *against* him in any presidential election in US history.
    Ummm, no, that's wrong. First, since Bush had more votes than Kerry, Kerry had more votes cast against him than were cast against Bush. But let's assume that you meant to say that Bush had the most votes cast against him and still won the election. You'd still be wrong. In 1992, there were almost 60 million votes against Bill Clinton, compared to almost 57 million against Bush in 2004.
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  12. It would be hilarious by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What would happen if it turned out Kerry won?

    Suddenly, the Democratic support for abolishing the electoral college, which, in the 2000 election permitted Bush to win despite Gore carrying a majority of the popular vote, would vanish in a puff of smoke.

    And it would be the Republicans complaining because a mere 60,000 vote switch in Ohio gave Kerry the presidency through the electoral college system despite Bush having won the popular vote by over 3 million.

    It would be hilarious to watch as strident principled Democrats fell silent while the vocal Republicans would begin attacking positions that they themselves previously held onto with great fervor.

    As if the whole thing weren't farcical enough already.

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