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Gates v. Jobs, continued...

FJCsar writes "The New York Times has an interesting story about the continuing battle between Microsoft's Windows Media Player and Apple's iTunes from the perspectives of both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs."

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  1. Re:The trouble with DRM by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Informative

    May I humbly suggest connecting your iPod either directly to the car player (if it has mp3 support, it might have also line-in jack) or indirectly beaming music via devices such as Griffin iTrip and similar? That's what I do.

  2. Re:Microsoft owns a portion of Apple by xirtam_work · · Score: 5, Informative

    Micrsoft bought $150M of shares as part of a settlement years ago and later sold them later at a massive profit. Microsoft do not 'own' part of Apple. Please get your fact straight.

  3. FM sucks. Cassette sucks by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Neither FM transmitters nor cassette adapters are a good solution - both greatly reduce the quality of the signal provided to the stereo.

    I have an MP3 player in my car, and was using a cassette adapter to interface to it until I could get the head-end adapter (that fooled the stereo into thinking it had a CD jukebox attached) for the car. The difference between the two was not merely night and day - it was night and nova. The cassette adapter had no bass, no treble, and poor stereo seperation.

    FM transmitters are just as bad - the maximum frequency is limited to 15 kHz, and the stereo seperation is poor due to the multiplexing of the L-R signal onto the 38kHz pilot tone.

    If his stereo has a CDR MP3 player function, it likely has support for a CD jukebox - go to Precision Interface Electronics and order the appropriate adapter, it will be much better.

  4. Re:More of a battle of distribution formats by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, you won't have to buy an OS upgrade to keep using your old music.

    iTunes 4.2 can and will still play FairPlay v1 protected tracks. So all you'll ever need to play your v1 encoded music is iTunes 4.2. Period. Of course, once FairPlay v2 was devised, they started selling songs using that instead of v1, but your v1 songs haven't changed at all.

    As a matter of fact, there's no way to update songs from v1 to v2 without repurchasing them.

    Thus, your FairPlay v1 songs purchased before the store updated to v2 will always work on any platform that can play v1. Your v2 songs will always work on any iTunes that supports that encoding, which (as far as I know) is 4.5 and now 4.7.

    I don't think iTunes 4.2 supports FairPlay v2, but it might. Anyone know for sure?

  5. Re:And how? by turgid · · Score: 4, Informative
    Contradict yourself much? You're right, if it weren't for Bill Gates and Windows most of the world would still be using some DOS variant or an IBM terminal.

    No. You are a victim of revisionist history.

    Most businesses realize the value of CHOICE which is why Apple didn't make it in the business sector

    Wrong! Business only values conformity. Back in the day, there were several superior architectures to the PeeCee in terms of hardware and software, including the Apple Macintosh, which is the only one that has survived. There was the Amiga, the Atari ST and the Acorn Archimedes (which was very popular in UK schools, and was about 10 times faster at the same price point that PeeCee hardware). These machines were capable of emulating the 286 PeeCees of the day at native speed or fater.

    All the business world cared about was being "IBM compatible" and being able to lock itself into running Lotus 123.

    That's what happened.

    Bill came late to the party as usual. The rest is history and has been largely forgotten by noobs and youngsters like yourself.

    Bill is where he is through questionable business tactics, and the herd mentality.

  6. Re:Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation by turgid · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes. I am actually a Fan, though not becuase of his work in computers. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is, if not one of the largest, then one of the deepest pocketed philanthropic foundations around. They do good things with the money that Bill has made over the years.

    Oh please. How the Astroturfers and sycophants wax lyrical about Chairman's Bill's never ending kind-heartedness.

    Have you all already forgotten about Bill's trip to India, where he gave $100m to fight HIV, $421m to fight Linux?

    Now, I ask you as to where this man's priotities lie.